Do You Believe In Predestination?

[Pimike]

Thr Bible itself wasn't around when Christianity began.

There wasn't any Bible for anyone to read.

Who was the authority, then?

What happens if one is illiterate?

He is automatically condemned because he can't read?

How about the person who never heard of the Bible?

Their salvation is impossible?

The Church is the only authority that's ever existed. Nothing has changed. It's still the authority.

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The Bible is the living Word of God it has the answers.

 

[phillyflyers]

Romans 1:20

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The Bible is the living Word of God it has the answers.

It can't save your soul. It isn't required for salvation and there is absolutely nothing in scripture that gives it authority.

It wasn't there from the beginning and so could have never been the authority as you try to claim.

 

[phillyflyers]

You also have yet to answer any question.

What happens if one is illiterate?

Are they automatically condemned because they cannot read?

 

[Pimike]

It can't save your soul. It isn't required for salvation and there is absolutely nothing in scripture that gives it authority.

It wasn't there from the beginning and so could have never been the authority as you try to claim.

Christ can only save your soul.

which the Bible states.

Have a great day!

 

[phillyflyers]

Christ can only save your soul.

which the Bible states.

Have a great day!

Yes. Which is why He left us His Church.

To be saved by Him through it.

 

[runningthroughshowers]

Predestination:

1. (as a doctrine in Christian theology) the divine foreordaining of all that will happen, especially with regard to the salvation of some and not others. It has been particularly associated with the teachings of St. Augustine of Hippo and of Calvin.

2. If God made everything before it existed, including time, space, and matter, then He knew everything from start to finish well before it ever happened. This brings up interesting questions and possibilities.

3. If He saw everything that was to happen, then He knew and saw the Rebellion of Satan, the rise of Man, the Fall of Adam, the creation of Hell, etc.

4. This would mean that everything that has happened up to this point, was in fact, predetermined. It also would mean there is no such thing as free will.

5. If there isn't any such thing as free will, then why are humans and angels eternally punished in Hell?

6. It means that everything, every action in our lives, that led us to this point WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN EXACTLY AS IT DID.

7. IF this is the case, what is the point of living?

I remember having this conversation when I was drunk in college

Time to grow up pal

This is something JohnGalt would post

 

[phillyflyers]

I remember having this conversation when I was drunk in college

Time to grow up pal

This is something JohnGalt would post

Time to grow up?



You couldn't survive one day i go through.

Intellectuals having been having this debate for decades.

 

[runningthroughshowers]

Time to grow up?



You couldn't survive one day i go through.

Intellectuals having been having this debate for decades.

decades? who think this conversation has been going on for decades?

are you 19?

bro, study some history then get back to me

i have time for ignorance, but not that which is sewn in stupidity

 

[phillyflyers]

decades? who think this conversation has been going on for decades?

are you 19?

bro, study some history then get back to me

i have time for ignorance, but not that which is sewn in stupidity

Nobody gives a fukk what you think, asshole.

The best minds are still debating this.

If you don't like the topic then get off the fukkin thread dikkhead.

 

[runningthroughshowers]

Nobody gives a fukk what you think, asshole.

The best minds are still debating this.

If you don't like the topic then get off the fukkin thread dikkhead.

Well you clearly dont believe in God with comments like that

 

[phillyflyers]

Well you clearly dont believe in God with comments like that

I believe you're a fukkin faggot.

 

[runningthroughshowers]

I believe you're a fukkin faggot.

well you're going to hell for that

I will pray for you sweetcheeks

 

[phillyflyers]

well you're going to hell for that

I will pray for you sweetcheeks

Because you're the judge, faggot?

Stop taking balls across your nose.