Do You Believe In Predestination?

[phillyflyers]

Not getting what I am trying to say. Jesus sacrifice on the cross saves us when we come to repentance for our sinfulness.

How do you come to repentance?

By what means?

 

[charliebrown]

I'm

How do you come to repentance?

By what means?

He means if you truly feel the repentance then you are in line with Jesus and his philosophy of goodness. You know Jesus can't be wrong because when you feel his teachings in your heart you know it's the right way. We humans are not free of sin so still have evil thoughts and actions. But once saved by truly believing in Christs way then you are saved in heaven you feel only joy. You know longer know eveil

 

[edawg]

How do you come to repentance?

By what means?

By confessing are sins to Christ. Asking for forgiveness and the holy spirit to guide us.

 

[phillyflyers]

By confessing are sins to Christ. Asking for forgiveness and the holy spirit to guide us.

Yes, confession is a part of it.

But what about holy communion after confession?

Then prayer and the avoidance of sin after that?

 

[edawg]

The Eucharist is ceremonial and if we don't pass with the next breath odds are we will continue to sin that is the very reason God sent Jesus is because as humans we are sinners.

 

[Archie]

dat a real ass body and real drippy red blood

Catholics believe in TRANS!

flesh and blood yo

 

[phillyflyers]

The Eucharist is ceremonial and if we don't pass with the next breath odds are we will continue to sin that is the very reason God sent Jesus is because as humans we are sinners.

The Eucharist is the actual Body of Christ.

I thought you read the Bible?

"This is My body, which has been given up for you, do this in memory of Me."

Meaning Christ is actually inside of you. In this way, Satan can't ever touch you.

 

[Archie]

yep

like the WHOLE body

butthole and penis too!

 

[edawg]

Not Catholic my man if you want to believe in ceremonial worship that is your decision.

 

[phillyflyers]

Not Catholic my man if you want to believe in ceremonial worship that is your decision.

It isn't ceremonial.

If you really think so, then you also must believe that everyone who was ever a Christian before protestants weren't forgiven and in Hell.

That's 1500 years of history before the heretical sect was born.

EDIT: Reading a book never saved anyone and they can't agree on what to or who to believe.

 

[edawg]

It isn't ceremonial.

If you really think so, then you also must believe that everyone who was ever a Christian before protestants weren't forgiven and in Hell.

That's 1500 years of history before the heretical sect was born.

EDIT: Reading a book never saved anyone and they can't agree on what to or who to believe.

So you think stale bread and Welch's grape juice is actually the body and blood of Christ? It is ceremonial and there is nothing wrong with that but it doesn't save.

 

[phillyflyers]

So you think stale bread and Welch's grape juice is actually the body and blood of Christ? It is ceremonial and there is nothing wrong with that but it doesn't save.

It is truly the Body of Christ.

Don't you believe Jesus Himself?

THIS IS MY BODY.

Was He feeding the Apostles Himself?

Were they cannabalizing Jesus at the Last Supper?

No. Of course not.

It was transformed through the Holy Spirit.

THIS IS MY BODY.

He didn't say this is my body metaphorically speaking did He?

He also made it very clear we must do this as part of being forgiven.

There isn't any way around this.

Protestants believe in reading a book, believing their own interpretation of it, and basically think they can forgive themselves.

Not how it works. At all.

Fact is Christ Himself left us an agency which He Hinself put in charge. That agency is the only thing on earth protecting us from Hell.

It is the Catholic Church. As such, He gave it full authority to act in His name, to set the rules.

Outside of it, there is no salvation. For anyone.

 

[phillyflyers]

 

[edawg]

We will never agree I have had this argument a 100 times with my friends and family that are Catholic. Doubt there are any denominations in Heaven and wish you the best.

 

[phillyflyers]

We will never agree I have had this argument a 100 times with my friends and family that are Catholic. Doubt there are any denominations in Heaven and wish you the best.

For sure i wish you the best.

But the reality is there is only one Church ever founded by Christ Himself and that's the Catholic Church.

Whom Jesus gave all authority.

It is more probable that the only people in Heaven are faithful Catholics and the OT jews.

 

[maltedhopsfrenzy]

The Eucharist is the actual Body of Christ.

I thought you read the Bible?

I tell this to all my ‘Christian’ friends - you do realize there’s other beliefs, correct? The Roman Catholic/Jesus, ‘Son Of God’ is not the belief of the majority of ‘practicing’ religions - terrorist wars should tell you that. There’s also Buddhism, Judaism, and plenty of other religions that started before ‘Christianity’. I was raised Catholic, but am open-minded enough to accept other people’s beliefs. If the base is there, and ‘The Golden Rule’, then I’m in. I just try to be a good person…..

 

[edawg]

For sure i wish you the best.

But the reality is there is only one Church ever founded by Christ Himself and that's the Catholic Church.

Whom Jesus gave all authority.

It is more probable that the only people in Heaven are faithful Catholics and the OT jews.

Jesus gave all authority to the Catholic Church? You honestly don't believe that do you?

 

[phillyflyers]

I tell this to all my ‘Christian’ friends - you do realize there’s other beliefs, correct? The Roman Catholic/Jesus, ‘Son Of God’ is not the belief of the majority of ‘practicing’ religions - terrorist wars should tell you that. There’s also Buddhism, Judaism, and plenty of other religions that started before ‘Christianity’. I was raised Catholic, but am open-minded enough to accept other people’s beliefs. If the base is there, and ‘The Golden Rule’, then I’m in. I just try to be a good person…..

So what?

What are those other religions worth if they can't save your soul from Hell?

Worthless.

There's only one saviour for humanity and He isn't found in Buddhism or Judaism or any other religion.

Do you think it's a coincidence that Christianity produced the greatest civilization ever known to man?

That the cultures of the Catholic peoples of the world pushed man to a level never before seen?

Why is that? Ask yourself. Was that coincidence?

Or could it be that when you are rooted in truth, wonderful things happen?

 

[phillyflyers]

Jesus gave all authority to the Catholic Church? You honestly don't believe that do you?

Yes of course He did.

Passed authority through the Apostles which is the foundation of the Church.

Again, I thought you read the Bible?

"And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Not only do I believe it but so did every Christian who ever lived for 15+ centuries did as well before the heretical.sect came along with nonsense.

 

[edawg]

Like I said we will never agree. Good luck.