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flyingillini

flyingillini

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It doesn't fit well to my mind the words "always paid" and the creation date of the thread which is less than one and half month. Did you manage within this timeframe to smash the bookie and withdraw so many times? Did you meet the rollover that fast? Had you been playing before the thread creation?
I’ve gotten 6 withdrawals from this book. I’ve got them for 13k total. I only took a bonus twice.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Keep us updated - I plan on reup within the coming week as need another bonus book in the rotation to help keep me profitable.

All the stupidity on here from Saintsfan - really wish BMR would clean that up and remove. As I said - dude is a blatant troll pissed that he lost and couldn’t shake down a book for some lunch money.

Deposit $100 for a big bonus - lose and repeat until his $500 bankroll is shot then decides to try to get a free shot at the book. When that fails - comes here talking stupidity that the book “threatened” him and his family.

I have played offshore for 20 years - dealt with more than a hundred books and cannot think of a single incident where a book “threatened” me - this includes dealing with a few “characters” offshore known for short tempers. Seen plenty of keyboard warriors threaten books or their employees - but book calling and threatening people - haven’t seen that one for a while (and only incident I can really recall offhand was after someone called out the book online, threatened a clerk and continued talking shit to the owner repeatedly).
 

flyingillini

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Keep us updated - I plan on reup within the coming week as need another bonus book in the rotation to help keep me profitable.

All the stupidity on here from Saintsfan - really wish BMR would clean that up and remove. As I said - dude is a blatant troll pissed that he lost and couldn’t shake down a book for some lunch money.

Deposit $100 for a big bonus - lose and repeat until his $500 bankroll is shot then decides to try to get a free shot at the book. When that fails - comes here talking stupidity that the book “threatened” him and his family.

I have played offshore for 20 years - dealt with more than a hundred books and cannot think of a single incident where a book “threatened” me - this includes dealing with a few “characters” offshore known for short tempers. Seen plenty of keyboard warriors threaten books or their employees - but book calling and threatening people - haven’t seen that one for a while (and only incident I can really recall offhand was after someone called out the book online, threatened a clerk and continued talking shit to the owner repeatedly).
Im lost here. Who is saints fan and what happened ? It’s a poster here ? Clue me in please.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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I give a try too and I will report back when I have news.

My taste is that @flyingillini and @Pimike are looking overexcited which makes me suspicious - with all respect.

@djefferis is a trustworthy poster for me.

Let's see what this new book brings to us.
Not excited about anything. I’m just posting my personal experience with this book. I keep winning here but losing at Pinnacle. So far so good here.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Im lost here. Who is saints fan and what happened ? It’s a poster here ? Clue me in please.

Nutshell version of the nutcase:

BetWWS - Willy is a class act

Quite a few post in this thread and a few more threads in the Sportsbook section of the forum that most never visit.

Guy post how he would never trust BetWWS - a week later he’s playing there and loving it - a week later they are crooks and stole his money because they wouldn’t allow him to cancel bets after events started. Obvious scammer playing for a huge bonus with multiple small deposit and accused Willy of “threatening” him.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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Nutshell version of the nutcase:

BetWWS - Willy is a class act

Quite a few post in this thread and a few more threads in the Sportsbook section of the forum that most never visit.

Guy post how he would never trust BetWWS - a week later he’s playing there and loving it - a week later they are crooks and stole his money because they wouldn’t allow him to cancel bets after events started. Obvious scammer playing for a huge bonus with multiple small deposit and accused Willy of “threatening” him.
I scrolled up and just read everything. I missed what happened the last few days. I’m on the plane for the next 11 hours I need to catch up on everything.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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Nutshell version of the nutcase:

BetWWS - Willy is a class act

Quite a few post in this thread and a few more threads in the Sportsbook section of the forum that most never visit.

Guy post how he would never trust BetWWS - a week later he’s playing there and loving it - a week later they are crooks and stole his money because they wouldn’t allow him to cancel bets after events started. Obvious scammer playing for a huge bonus with multiple small deposit and accused Willy of “threatening” him.
And also this is someone that we definitely know and we probably post to here. They are not new here for sure. I wonder who this?
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Given the level of bi-polar - it could be one of a few regulars here.

What we know:

- Bi-polar psychotic
- losing gambler
- small bankroll

Too few spelling errors to be JJ - actually deposits to the book so takes some of the other suspects out of the running. It’s a mystery to me still - but 100% - no one just decided to start gambling offshore in November and stumbled into BMR.

They have been around forums for a while. Regardless - it’s crap like this that makes playing offshore a pain as you can’t get honest reviews of a book and just too many people talking on a subject they know nothing about.

Just because a book is hosted by a PPH service for instance does not mean they are not capable of paying or that they are all scams. A lot of dedicated operations with huge budgets skipped town with player funds - likewise the “local” bookies have been in business for years and realize as long as they manage their clients and treat them fairly - it’s a proven money maker long term. It’s a reason to use caution - but for those who take advantage of bonuses - they are a risk worth taking.
 

flyingillini

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Given the level of bi-polar - it could be one of a few regulars here.

What we know:

- Bi-polar psychotic
- losing gambler
- small bankroll

Too few spelling errors to be JJ - actually deposits to the book so takes some of the other suspects out of the running. It’s a mystery to me still - but 100% - no one just decided to start gambling offshore in November and stumbled into BMR.

They have been around forums for a while. Regardless - it’s crap like this that makes playing offshore a pain as you can’t get honest reviews of a book and just too many people talking on a subject they know nothing about.

Just because a book is hosted by a PPH service for instance does not mean they are not capable of paying or that they are all scams. A lot of dedicated operations with huge budgets skipped town with player funds - likewise the “local” bookies have been in business for years and realize as long as they manage their clients and treat them fairly - it’s a proven money maker long term. It’s a reason to use caution - but for those who take advantage of bonuses - they are a risk worth taking.
It’s pretty fucked that this poster is allowed to spam the board and it’s not cleaned up. I feel for this book, they don’t deserve the negative posts considering they are bogus.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Agreed - again any reasonable person can see right through this idiot. But Google the book and this is what you’re going to see.

For that reason - I simply felt it appropriate to give the book another shot this week and to share my honest feedback as I’ve done with many other books.

It sucks - but for a variety of reasons these boards have no interest in offering fair and independent reporting on books and haven’t for a while. BMR does the best of everyone left - which is why o post here - but it’s impossible to remain “independent” when your revenue source is solely the shops your reviewing - especially when said books pay affiliate commissions based on net losses and not revenue generated.

Of the BMR recommended books there are basically 1 I wouldn’t touch at the moment and 1 would be “cautious” around. The others I’d trust as B+ level books which means I’d have very little concern at being able to withdraw my funds from in under 14 days (and likely in under 24-48 hours in most situations). That’s fairly good all factors considered.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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Agreed - again any reasonable person can see right through this idiot. But Google the book and this is what you’re going to see.

For that reason - I simply felt it appropriate to give the book another shot this week and to share my honest feedback as I’ve done with many other books.

It sucks - but for a variety of reasons these boards have no interest in offering fair and independent reporting on books and haven’t for a while. BMR does the best of everyone left - which is why o post here - but it’s impossible to remain “independent” when your revenue source is solely the shops your reviewing - especially when said books pay affiliate commissions based on net losses and not revenue generated.

Of the BMR recommended books there are basically 1 I wouldn’t touch at the moment and 1 would be “cautious” around. The others I’d trust as B+ level books which means I’d have very little concern at being able to withdraw my funds from in under 14 days (and likely in under 24-48 hours in most situations). That’s fairly good all factors considered.
Once again , another great post !
 

Pimike

Pimike

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Lol

wow

tried to cancel bet’s at the end after seeing it’s going to lose.

Now crying like a baby they wouldn’t cancel them for him.

lol

what book does that.

I have deposited several times. Have been paid several times.

so that sweeping statement that I never funded them is wrong. I’ll bet to that money went back and forth.

I got the proof.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Just an update on my experience with BetWWS.

Deposited 500 - took 75% cash bonus.

Now up to around $3500 after last night and about halfway through my roll including pending wagers for the remainder of this week.

Hopefully have a decent week from here on in and can give a payout report from them in a week or so.

For those interested in my pending plays

NFL San Francisco -3
NCAA Army -6’
NFL Jets -3
NFL Bengals -5
NFL Chiefs -4

Nickel each on 49’ers and Army - a little more on Sunday games. Hopefully we see at least 3 winners here and a profit. Once these are done I’ll get serious about clearing RO with some larger plays.
 

Miz

Miz

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i ran up a decent sized balance here. i'll report back on the payout process. a little more rollover to go.
had just over 25k in there. got 5k payout in under 24 hours as my first payout. They didn't end up requesting any documentation for KYC, but i was happy to provide it if they requested. Willy did email updates throughout the day to keep me informed (very much appreciated). Overall very smooth. I had a small question about the payout conversion rate and Willy is looking into it to rectify, ... a very minor question. 5k per payout max, 3x per week max. Willy provided a great CS experience, especially w the email updates.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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had just over 25k in there. got 5k payout in under 24 hours as my first payout. They didn't end up requesting any documentation for KYC, but i was happy to provide it if they requested. Willy did email updates throughout the day to keep me informed (very much appreciated). Overall very smooth. I had a small question about the payout conversion rate and Willy is looking into it to rectify, ... a very minor question. 5k per payout max, 3x per week max. Willy provided a great CS experience, especially w the email updates.
Glad to hear, as I have stated before Willy is a breath of fresh air and exactly what the industry needs during this time!
 
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