www.Betwws.ag

[betwws]

Who is the odds provider/pph for this site?

We use several odd providers Sir

 

[baus]

We use several odd providers Sir

What screens are you on?

BAUS

 

[saintsfan2003]

Well that was short lived they are officially a scam book the guys saying they got paid deposited small and only took 25%fp 1x rollover. When you get a high balance they can’t payout because this book consists of one bozo names Willy no seriously it’s a one man show ask for anyone else you won’t find anyone it’s just him running this scam shop. I worked up a balance over 10k and before I hit my roll I was blocked on live chat and wasn’t able to login to my account he confiscated my funds! Avoid Willy he’s a crook

 

[djefferis]

Ok - well sorry to hear.

Have you filed a complaint with BMR or any other group ?

Not saying it’s not entirely possible you signed up - ran up a 5 figure balance and got shut down as it is of course entirely possible.

What I am saying is the likelihood of someone who joined on 11/26 - has 7 post (including one calling Willie a top notch guy) and the post below from 11/26 being legit suggest you are in fact the one playing games here.

“Wellll I tried signing up it said my info is already in their system so their a sister site of someone or stole another books customer list, nobody answered via live chat either been in queue for 25 minutes. All signs point to scam”

Just so we have a timeline on what has happened with you;

11/26 - Join BMR - post to this thread about trying to sign up for BetWWS - finding out your info is in their database already (likely from another book/saleslist from another shop) and saying you suspect they are total frauds.

12/2 - post to BMR saying you are now playing there - have made several deposits and extolling Willy as a great guy with excellent customer service skills. Admit you have never won - but keep re-upping and playing.

12/6 - Willy is a total crook and stole your money - shut you down and won’t talk to you.

Let’s be honest - that’s quite the roller coaster ride you’ve been on by your posting. To have made several (several to me means at least 5) deposits to a book who you felt was a fraud 4 DAYS prior based on your post is let’s say “suspicious”. Then to go to the book shut me out and won’t answer me 4 additional days later. I’m beginning to see why that may well be the case.

I don’t know either of you - but just on your post alone I’ve got to say I smell something funny here and it’s not the book in this case.

 

[betwws]

Well that was short lived they are officially a scam book the guys saying they got paid deposited small and only took 25%fp 1x rollover. When you get a high balance they can’t payout because this book consists of one bozo names Willy no seriously it’s a one man show ask for anyone else you won’t find anyone it’s just him running this scam shop. I worked up a balance over 10k and before I hit my roll I was blocked on live chat and wasn’t able to login to my account he confiscated my funds! Avoid Willy he’s a crook

Hello Sir
So im going to post the history of your last plays here. You never got your balance that high, We did not confiscate nor blocked your account. What happened here is this customer was repeatedly asking to have wagers deleted on the last 2-3 minutes of the games he had bet on that were losing bets. Claiming that the sport, league, match, or that our live betting provider was rigged. Of course we told him that we would not delete those bets and then he began to threat with making this posts. On another note this customer requested to have a 500% FP bonus with a 40x rollover given to him as to which I agreed and he received this bonus several times and never even close to reaching his rollover.

This was his last deposit and the plays he had with that.

He got his balance up to almost $3500, and the lost it. And on $100 deposit with a 500% FP bonus and a 40x the rollover would be $24,000 and as you guys can see here he was not even close.

 

[saintsfan2003]

First off posting entire bets slips history/deposit info of one’s account is illegal, secondly those aren’t even the bets I placed, and obviously if you confiscate my funds I’m gonna go to
Bmr… you say that like I threatened you. When you scam someone Willy and they give you a chance to make things right that isn’t a threat that’s called having integrity and being a good person. You and I both know exactly what the situation is and you making up stuff and re-wording it in a way that fits your narrative isn’t helping your cause. I understand you’re a startup and can’t pay you should’ve just made it known max cashout is 5x deposit bonus etc, and if you aren’t a scam show us your licensing and documentation of at least 3 other employees that work with you/for you? Oh that’s right there is none. It’s just you in your “office” (garage). Scams scams scams.

 

[betwws]

First off posting entire bets slips history/deposit info of one’s account is illegal, secondly those aren’t even the bets I placed, and obviously if you confiscate my funds I’m gonna go to
Bmr… you say that like I threatened you. When you scam someone Willy and they give you a chance to make things right that isn’t a threat that’s called having integrity and being a good person. You and I both know exactly what the situation is and you making up stuff and re-wording it in a way that fits your narrative isn’t helping your cause. I understand you’re a startup and can’t pay you should’ve just made it known max cashout is 5x deposit bonus etc, and if you aren’t a scam show us your licensing and documentation of at least 3 other employees that work with you/for you? Oh that’s right there is none. It’s just you in your “office” (garage). Scams scams scams.

Those are your bets, I have not re worded or made up anything its all there clear as day. Again Im sorry you feel that way but is not our business to steal from people. If you have to please file the complain on BMR and I will give them all the information they need.

Have a good day let me know if I can help with anything else

 

[djefferis]

I love it - the obviously exposed poster trying to shake down a book is now an expert in International law and privacy regulations.

Illegal to post bet history or deposit info ? Please cite your sources ?

Again - you went from accusing someone of being a likely scam - to admittedly sending them money MULTIPLE times to going back to accusing them of being a scam again - all in the course of 2 weeks. IF you truly felt they were a scam - why in the hell did you ever give them a cent !?! Because you saw the opportunity to take a shot and scam who you felt was a scammer ? Did you suffer a traumatic brain injury ? Or was it just the undiagnosed mental issue you suffer from ?

It’s clear who the scammer in this thread is and shocker - it ain’t Willy. You got exposed and now cry foul and start arguing the book did something they shouldn’t have done in posting your history. Since your a legal expert - I’m sure your familiar with what’s commonly called

 

[saintsfan2003]

Those are your bets, I have not re worded or made up anything its all there clear as day. Again Im sorry you feel that way but is not our business to steal from people. If you have to please file the complain on BMR and I will give them all the information they need.

Have a good day let me know if I can help with anything else

Those are your bets, I have not re worded or made up anything its all there clear as day. Again Im sorry you feel that way but is not our business to steal from people. If you have to please file the complain on BMR and I will give them all the information they need.

Have a good day let me know if I can help with anything else

You didn’t answer my question show us your licensing and proper documentation of your business.

Those are your bets, I have not re worded or made up anything its all there clear as day. Again Im sorry you feel that way but is not our business to steal from people. If you have to please file the complain on BMR and I will give them all the information they need.

Have a good day let me know if I can help with anything elseyou

Those are your bets, I have not re worded or made up anything its all there clear as day. Again Im sorry you feel that way but is not our business to steal from people. If you have to please file the complain on BMR and I will give them all the information they need.

Have a good day let me know if I can help with anything else

You didn’t answer my question, show us your licensing and proper documentation so we can see you are a legitimate business as you so claim.

 

[djefferis]

Got cut off - but Saintsfan2003 - please delete your other ghost as well from BMR or let the mods know what they are so they can remove those accounts to. No way in hell some gambler just stumbles onto the forum - signs up and then takes up gambling with an unknown book in the course of 2 weeks

 

[saintsfan2003]

Willy made friends on rx forum and bmr forum prior to starting his scam operation so he could prepare for situations like these when they arise and have multiple people backing him once he’s accused of not paying , these guys djjeffries and pmmike haven’t deposited any actual dollar amounts worth anything, their just Willys internet friends who he bribes to make fake reviews and defend his malicious acts. Regardless it’s he said vs she said as these things often are. In the words of Roger Daltrey “I don’t need to fight to prove I’m right”

 

[djefferis]

Ok wise guy - wanna post up a few $$ to back your claims about me not playing there ?

Plenty of people who will act as intermediary here and take money from both of us - and I am happy to allow any from BMR or other established to act as judge and give the verdict

We post up our money - you win - you get paid. You lose - mod will donate the funds to appropriate charitable fund selected by the posters of BMR - sound fair to you.

I’ll permit Willy to share my account history/plays with the judge (and post to this thread) - as well as share the BTC transaction address and history showing I posted up there and when I did (establishing there is a verifiable timestamp and not just a made up history screen on their end). How’s that sound smart guy ?

Maybe you’ll think before spinning your wild conspiracies next time - but I doubt it. It’s one thing to suggest a book is a scam - but now you’re spinning out saying everyone is acting in concert with them. Here’s your chance to prove your conspiracy as any reasonable person has to agree you can’t fake BTC transaction history.

 

[baus]

Saintsfan, you asked the book to cancel bets after the game had started?

BAUS

 

[saintsfan2003]

Ok wise guy - wanna post up a few $$ to back your claims about me not playing there ?

Plenty of people who will act as intermediary here and take money from both of us - and I am happy to allow any from BMR or other established to act as judge and give the verdict

We post up our money - you win - you get paid. You lose - mod will donate the funds to appropriate charitable fund selected by the posters of BMR - sound fair to you.

I’ll permit Willy to share my account history/plays with the judge (and post to this thread) - as well as share the BTC transaction address and history showing I posted up there and when I did (establishing there is a verifiable timestamp and not just a made up history screen on their end). How’s that sound smart guy ?

Maybe you’ll think before spinning your wild conspiracies next time - but I doubt it. It’s one thing to suggest a book is a scam - but now you’re spinning out saying everyone is acting in concert with them. Here’s your chance to prove your conspiracy as any reasonable person has to agree you can’t fake BTC transaction history.

Huh? Are you special needs or something? the fact you’re trying to go that far to “prove”you and your buddy aren’t scammers proves it that much more obvious that betwws.ag is indeed a scam. Don’t sell yourself out that easily. You made it wayyy too obvious. Court adjourned

 

[djefferis]

Huh? Are you special needs or something? the fact you’re trying to go that far to “prove”you and your buddy aren’t scammers proves it that much more obvious that betwws.ag is indeed a scam. Don’t sell yourself out that easily. You made it wayyy too obvious. Court adjourned

Seriously - your gonna side step my offer to post up actual money to back your bullshit and try to talk your way out of it ?

Dude - you have been here for less than a month so I’ll clue you in - I’m a regular and no one here is gonna buy the line that I am in anyway connected to Willy/BetWWS or any book - as I’ve repeatedly demonstrated I use several.

You mention TheRx - I no longer post over there or anyplace else for that matter - but you can very easily see my join date there and confirm the fact I’m far from a novice bettor - certainly not someone who for some reason thinks it’s acceptable to call a book and cancel a wager after placing it - and even more so after and event started !

You’ve had your fun now go back to your other ghost and stop trolling as if anyone is reading your crap. You talk a lot - but when it comes down to it you’ve proven you ain’t got a cent backing your talk. I made a genuine offer to back my claims with $$ - you respond ignoring the offer and looking to double down on your ignorance alleging I’m somehow connected to BetWWS.

My relationship to them is solely that of a customer - same as your was. Of course I didn’t try to scam them or play games. I paid - I lost. I didn’t go crying asking for refunds - I didn’t post to a forum when someone wouldn’t give me my money back.

Again - if for any reason BMR doesn’t want to take down your account/dump your ignorance in this thread and leave this up - fine - any semi educated person can see exactly who and what you are. But your threads shilling for other shops should be removed.

I don’t need to prove anything - but I know clowns like you and have dealt with them for years. You like to talk - but bottom line you’re just another dead broke chump looking for a free roll. Go find it elsewhere as BMR has been a relatively decent place for serious gamblers.

 

[saintsfan2003]

I was wrong Willy is class act and he is the best in the industry. I was wrong. I messaged bmr to take down my messages and posts cause it won’t let me edit them myself

 

[saintsfan2003]

Willy blackmailed me that’s why I made those fake reviews giving him credit. He pulled up names of my family members and threatened hurting them if I didn’t change my reviews! I initially fell for it but not gonna let it happen Willy is a scammer NO PAY

 

[nasios]

I give a try too and I will report back when I have news.

My taste is that @flyingillini and @Pimike are looking overexcited which makes me suspicious - with all respect.

@djefferis is a trustworthy poster for me.

Let's see what this new book brings to us.

 

[flyingillini]

I give a try too and I will report back when I have news.

My taste is that @flyingillini and @Pimike are looking overexcited which makes me suspicious - with all respect.

@djefferis is a trustworthy poster for me.

Let's see what this new book brings to us.

I have nothing but positive experiences with this book so far. Always paid , fast and easy, custom bonuses, there is nothing not to like.

 

[nasios]

I have nothing but positive experiences with this book so far. Always paid , fast and easy, custom bonuses, there is nothing not to like.

It doesn't fit well to my mind the words "always paid" and the creation date of the thread which is less than one and half month. Did you manage within this timeframe to smash the bookie and withdraw so many times? Did you meet the rollover that fast? Had you been playing before the thread creation?