The Bettors Den

[djefferis]

Former manager of 5D who is now working their client list.

They are relying hard on that connection in their branding.

Overall - it was a highly successful operation before getting too big. They appear to have tried to go legal - agreed to cooperate and shut down with hopes of getting a license. Once it became clear that would never happen - plan B was fall back and open BettorsDen.

Right now looks like they are dangling huge bonuses hoping the scalpers fund them for a year to build up funds - not a bad idea.

 

[jyumni]

I like them so far , this reduced juice thing is really fun to play with.
Its not shady reduced juice that heritage runs , it is real reduced juice.

 

[JDS]

Former manager of 5D who is now working their client list.

They are relying hard on that connection in their branding.

Overall - it was a highly successful operation before getting too big. They appear to have tried to go legal - agreed to cooperate and shut down with hopes of getting a license. Once it became clear that would never happen - plan B was fall back and open BettorsDen.

Right now looks like they are dangling huge bonuses hoping the scalpers fund them for a year to build up funds - not a bad idea.

@KVB would you ever consider using them for a potential scalp ? Do you trust them enough to make a modest deposit of at least 4 figures.

 

[KVB]

@KVB would you ever consider using them for a potential scalp ? Do you trust them enough to make a modest deposit of at least 4 figures.

Sure, have some presence inside the Den.

So far I haven't seen any issues with them.

Does this thread mention payout issues anywhere?

I know they will KYC you a bit, but thus far they pay. And that's pretty important, lol.

 

[JDS]

Sure, have some presence inside the Den.

So far I haven't seen any issues with them.

Does this thread mention payout issues anywhere?

I know they will KYC you a bit, but thus far they pay. And that's pretty important, lol.

Ok cool I will try them in the near future. I am hearing positive things from the customers.

 

[KVB]

Ok cool I will try them in the near future. I am hearing positive things from the customers.

Yeah, so far no reason to think these guys running it are shady, they might just be trying to run a business.

They could probably use some sharp input to help increase the handle without killing their EV.

 

[Wagerallsports]

took a few days, heavy kyc, but that's fine. got paid.

What method?

 

[Wagerallsports]

Guys who have called me supposedly worked with or at 5dimes before

So they kept a copy of their old client lists.....
Makes sense. A lot of former employees do that, not just in sportsbook industry.

But does anyone know who is backing the book financially?

How do we know it’s not a few former employees taking a shot at making it big but don’t have the funding to sustain

 

[KVB]

But does anyone know who is backing the book financially?

How do we know it’s not a few former employees taking a shot at making it big but don’t have the funding to sustain

please list the payout complaints from Bettor’s Den that BMR has received

why are you questioning whether there is funding? I certainly hope you have a good reason.

 

[JDS]

But does anyone know who is backing the book financially?

How do we know it’s not a few former employees taking a shot at making it big but don’t have the funding to sustain

I got a question for you about another book. Let’s throw out the fact that Bovada’s lines are the fucking worst offshore that are monitored. With so many complaints in forumville about their shady ways of handling business. Do you trust your money there and do you gamble with that book anymore ? I personally don’t and probably never will again.

 

[KVB]

Welp, they are known as a Blowvada.

@JDS books like that can have a purpose and it’s usually not for market beating plays. They don’t like that.

But there can be layoffs, bonuses, and ways to move money through books like that.

Probably not a good idea to let balances grow, not because they’ll take it, but because it can be harder to get.

While we generally shy away from more transactions and book don’t like a lot of small transactions happening all the time, especially withdrawals, you might find yourself in a position where you’re taking small withdraws as you chunk the money down.

but in the end, for most purposes outside of fringe business, they are not worth the headache.

With some books there’s always something

 

[Wagerallsports]

please list the payout complaints from Bettor’s Den that BMR has received

why are you questioning whether there is funding? I certainly hope you have a good reason.

Im asking who is actually backing the book financially

I have several voicemails and emails from them early on and all I/we know about them is that they are affiliated with the old five dimes

But is it former ownership or just a few employees with some acquaintances trying to run their own book??

I do have a longtime friend at 5dimes. I may try to reach out to and maybe get more answers.

I got a question for you about another book. Let’s throw out the fact that Bovada’s lines are the fucking worst offshore that are monitored. With so many complaints in forumville about their shady ways of handling business. Do you trust your money there and do you gamble with that book anymore ? I personally don’t and probably never will again.

I haven’t played at that book in a very long time

Heritage, Justbet, Betonline have been my Main books for years while sprinkling in a little here & there at lesser known

 

[JDS]

Im asking who is actually backing the book financially

I have several voicemails and emails from them early on and all I/we know about them is that they are affiliated with the old five dimes

But is it former ownership or just a few employees with some acquaintances trying to run their own book??

I do have a longtime friend at 5dimes. I may try to reach out to and maybe get more answers.



I haven’t played at that book in a very long time

Heritage, Justbet, Betonline have been my Main books for years while sprinkling in a little here & there at lesser known

Nuff said.

 

[Tanko]

Great info.
We need some more history/info on payouts for this book.

 

[KVB]

Im asking who is actually backing the book financially

No, you're posing the scenario that the backers don't have funding...

How do we know it’s not a few former employees taking a shot at making it big but don’t have the funding to sustain

You could suggest that about any book in the world.

My question to you was for a list of payout issues. I don't reall need a list, but please address the question.

Have you seen payout issues with Bettor's Den?

 

[ks1986]

I opened/funded an account recently. Will report back if I withdraw. Software does feel like the old Dimes, but who really knows.

 

[Wagerallsports]

No, you're posing the scenario that the backers don't have funding...



You could suggest that about any book in the world.

My question to you was for a list of payout issues. I don't reall need a list, but please address the question.

Have you seen payout issues with Bettor's Den?

I have not seen nor do I handle payout disputes

I disagree you can say that about any book that is well & long established

Nobody knows who's behind them other than their claims to be former 5dimes guys

When you've been thru & dealt with nightmares like EZSTREET & TopBet, you can never be too careful when looking for answers on new sports books in the offshore world

 

[KVB]

I disagree you can say that about any book that is well & long established

I said you could say it about any book, I didn't say you would sound sane.

You could say it about Pinnacle. You could, but if you have no reason, why would you?

Which is what you did with Bettor's Den.

If you're not getting payout complaints or validly criticizing a bonus stucture or business model, there's no need to suggest they aren't solvent.

We all know there are risks, but throwing them out there so you can try to sound responsible is just the opposite.

You want to sound vigilant, then let us know if you get complaints.

 

[Wagerallsports]

I said you could say it about any book, I didn't say you would sound sane.

You could say it about Pinnacle. You could, but if you have no reason, why would you?

Which is what you did with Bettor's Den.

If you're not getting payout complaints or validly criticizing a bonus stucture or business model, there's no need to suggest they aren't solvent.

We all know there are risks, but throwing them out there so you can try to sound responsible is just the opposite.

You want to sound vigilant, then let us know if you get complaints.

I do have a reasoning

Because they are fairly new. And nobody knows anything about them.

As I said, I've dealt with the nightmares of new books & who show up and then disappear and then have to deal with the backlash from the customers. I've seen it all over the years

Besides, nobody is dissing them. Just wanting more answers, Hence all of the questions in this thread

If you have all of the answers as you always lead ppl to believe, then plz fill us in about this book. Have you ever been burnt by a newer book? Many of us have.

 

[KVB]

I do have a reasoning

Because they are fairly new. And nobody knows anything about them.

As I said, I've dealt with the nightmares of new books & who show up and then disappear and then have to deal with the backlash from the customers. I've seen it all over the years

Besides, nobody is dissing them. Just wanting more answers, Hence all of the questions in this thread

If you have all of the answers as you always lead ppl to believe, then plz fill us in about this book. Have you ever been burnt by a newer book? Many of us have.

Like I said, but I don't think you read...

We all know there are risks, but throwing them out there so you can try to sound responsible is just the opposite.

You want to sound vigilant, then let us know if you get complaints.