MLB Trade Deadline Aug 1st 6 PM ET (VERLANDER GOING TO ASTROS) ⚾⚾⚾

[Tanko]

What blockbuster trades will we see in the last 18 hours???

Names still being mentioned in the mix according to ESPN:
- Justin Verlander (NYM) --> ASTROS (see post #12)
- Nolan Arenado/Paul Goldschmidt/Dylan Carlson/Paul DeJong/Tyler O'Neill (STL)
- Blake Snell/Josh Hader (SDP)
- Marcus Stroman (CHC)
- Jack Flaherty (STL)
- Eduardo Rodriguez/Michael Lorenzen (DET)
- Jeimer Candelario (WAS)
- Tommy Pham/Mark Canha (NYM)
- Logan Gilbert/George Kirby/Bryce Miller/Bryan Woo (SEA)
- Rich Hill (PIT)

 

[BMR Genie]

This is going to be an interesting day for all the Baseball fans.

 

[jjgold]

Let’s see if any big names get moved

 

[Tanko]

ESPN mentioned possibly seeing Verlander go back to the Stros. I'm not sure I see that. He had $43M contract this year and next and the Astros would have to give some serious developmental players to get him.

Although the Astros are desperate for starters, I'd be surprised if they made this move.

Verlander also has a no trade clause so he makes the call.

 

[BigJay]

ESPN mentioned possibly seeing Verlander go back to the Stros. I'm not sure I see that. He had $43M contract this year and next and the Astros would have to give some serious developmental players to get him.

Although the Astros are desperate for starters, I'd be surprised if they made this move.

Verlander also has a no trade clause so he makes the call.

Only way is if they get a deal like Rangers did for Max, where Mets pay 70% or so of his remaining contract.

Stros historically cheap despite all their success

 

[Tanko]

Only way is if they get a deal like Rangers did for Max, where Mets pay 70% or so of his remaining contract.

Stros historically cheap despite all their success

Agreed. But, Damn the Mets already have Bobby Bonilla day and now kind of a Max Scherzer day (for a year or two). Adding a Verlander day for 2 years I guess would just be business as usual.

They would be paying more for guys playing for other teams than they do for their own team.

 

[sharpsquare]

ESPN mentioned possibly seeing Verlander go back to the Stros. I'm not sure I see that. He had $43M contract this year and next and the Astros would have to give some serious developmental players to get him.

Although the Astros are desperate for starters, I'd be surprised if they made this move.

Verlander also has a no trade clause so he makes the call.

Yeah hard to see that getting done just don't see a real match that would work for both there.

If the Astros are going to add some sping which I am not convinced of Eduardo Rodriguez/Michael Lorenzen seem more likely.

I don't think they do much of anything, maybe a cheap af OF bat to make it look like they didn't do shit at the deadline but doubt its much more.

 

[jjgold]

money does not buy titles baseball

 

[Tanko]

money does not buy titles baseball

Hmmmm... There is some truth to this statement.
But, I think you can agree, if you don't spend money, you aren't going anywhere.


WS Winner & Salary Rank

2022 Astros 7th
2021 Braves 10th
2020 Dodgers 2nd
2019 Nationals 7th
2018 Red Sox 1st
2017 Astros 17th They played the Dodgers 6th
2016 Cubs 6th
2015 Royals 25th
2014 Giants 7th
2013 Red Sox 12th
2012 Giants 6th
2011 Cardinals 10th
2010 Giants 11th
2009 Yankees 1st
2008 Phillies 12th
2007 Red Sox 2nd
2006 Cardinals 11th
2005 White Sox 13th
2004 Red Sox 2nd
2003 Marlins 25th

• 11 out of 20 of the winners were rankedin the top 10 in salary.
• Avg salary rank last 20 world series winners ~9th.

 

[Tanko]

Most common winners are 2nd and 7th (3x each).

2023 salary info.
2nd - Yankees
7th - Angels

Avg WS winner 9th --> Braves

 

[kidcudi92]

Civale to Rays. Big for the Rays as our pitchers are dropping like flies

 

[Tanko]

Verlander coming back to Astros.

Astros acquire Verlander from Mets for prospects

The Astros are acquiring Justin Verlander from the New York Mets for outfielders Drew Gilbert and Ryan Clifford, two top-five prospects in Houston's farm system.

www.espn.com

 

[Tanko]

Can't wait to see what they had to give up for him.

 

[Jrgum3]

Civale to Rays. Big for the Rays as our pitchers are dropping like flies

I don't understand why the Guardians made this trade. It's not like they're sellers but I guess they aren't buyers either. This is a big get for the Rays because Civale is having a good year and should help them out a lot.

 

[BigJay]

Can't wait to see what they had to give up for him.

I hope it wasn’t much. He’s locked in for next year so that’s good

 

[BigJay]

Can't wait to see what they had to give up for him.

Hope it’s something like a player to be named later

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[Tanko]

Astros giving up:
Drew Gilbert (AA - Corpus Christi Hooks) and Ryan Clifford (A - Ashville Tourists)


For Verlander, however, they get two intriguing prospects from an otherwise thin Houston system. Gilbert was the team's first-round pick last year out of Tennessee and ESPN's Kiley McDaniel has a 50 future value grade on him. He tore up Class A to start the season with a .361 average in 21 games, but has slowed to a .241/.342/.371 line at Double-A. He's a power/speed guy with the possibility of remaining in center field, allowing the Mets to eventually move Brandon Nimmo over to left field as he ages.

Like Gilbert, Clifford is a left-handed hitter with perhaps even more projectable power than Gilbert. Drafted in the 11th round out of high school, the Astros gave him second-round money to sign and he's already outperformed their initial expectations as scouts now project 30-homer potential. At 19 years old, he's already reached High-A and is hitting .291/.399/.520 with 18 home runs across the two levels. Kiley gives him a strong 45 FV as he's limited to right field or maybe first base, but clearly the bat has a chance to be pretty special.

 

[Tanko]

This is getting better and better for the Astros....
According to the NY Post:

• Mets are paying Verlander's $35M this year. He has a $43M contract this year and next year. That must mean the Astros are only covering $8M in 2023.
• Mets are also paying Verlander's $35M in 2024, again that should mean the Astros cover only $8M next year.
• If the 2025 option is triggered (occurs if Verlander pitches 140 innings in 2024), then Mets will pay $17.5M to Verlander in 2025 out of $35M he would be owed.

Wow. Astros getting last years Cy Young winner for $8M for remainder of 2023 and $8M for 2024 and maybe $17.5M in 2025.

 

[jjgold]

He won’t help he’s too old

 

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Welcome back to Houston, Kate Upton.