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vitterd

vitterd

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Also, I want to credit @lemartinsports for being such a good debate moderator. She handled it with grace.
Yep, Le was great. But thatā€™s the norm for her. I hope it provided entertainment and both were able to get our arguments out there. Thinking back, probably got out of hand a few times but I think that was expected.
 

vitterd

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I thought Le was fantastic too. I know she let one side or the other run over a little at times but that was appropriate to allow them to finish their point so it was a good thing.

She had a tough job and did it EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.
Yeah sheā€™s a pro. Itā€™s a tough balance on a time limit because when Iā€™m think something said is completely untrue, I canā€™t spend my entire time refuting his statement without getting in my own point. So you have to weigh which is more important, refuting a lie or making your own point.
 

BMR Genie

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Yep, Le was great. But thatā€™s the norm for her. I hope it provided entertainment and both were able to get our arguments out there. Thinking back, probably got out of hand a few times but I think that was expected.
It's good to see that both of you were able to express your emotions and disagreements in person. You can always disagree without being disrespectful. Argumentative or aggressive.
 

lemartinsports

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Also, I want to credit @lemartinsports for being such a good debate moderator. She handled it with grace.
Yep, Le was great. But thatā€™s the norm for her. I hope it provided entertainment and both were able to get our arguments out there. Thinking back, probably got out of hand a few times but I think that was expected.
I thought Le was fantastic too. I know she let one side or the other run over a little at times but that was appropriate to allow them to finish their point so it was a good thing.

She had a tough job and did it EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.
thanks guys šŸ™ƒ

vitty and donk did a great job, so big props to them. i was happy to see them be somewhat civil towards the end too. but i dont think i'm going to get the image of donk screaming while muted out of my head lol or vitty and donk mocking each other at the same time šŸ˜­
 

lemartinsports

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Credit to Vitt who remained calm for the most part

As for donk, you have to remember he's passionate about his country and doesn't like seeing it fall apart.
He also showed complete respect to Le, never getting out of line with her

Great job Miss Martin and to everyone involved šŸ‘
vitty stayed calm and classy in my head. donk is just a big silly man, i feel like he is probably a lot of fun if youre friends with him lol.

shoutout to enikk, bobby, sammy and tanko!
 

Enikk

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I thought Le was fantastic too. I know she let one side or the other run over a little at times but that was appropriate to allow them to finish their point so it was a good thing.

She had a tough job and did it EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.
Le fvcking crushed the ones that do Trump debates. Whether you like him or not, He was in a battle against them and the other party. Only fresh on my mind because I re-watched the 1st 2 Hilary debates with Trump to make sure we had an appropriate set-up w/questions.
 

Enikk

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Here's how I graded the debate
Donk 8
Vitty 6

-Best dressed
Donk 2
Vitty 1

Vitty was in basic t-shirt in hotel and Donk was in polo, hair done, in his house. Donk with the edge

-Most Articulate
Donk 2
Vitty 1

- Stone cold killer
Vitty 2
Donk 1

-Originality (brought new stuff to argue)
1-1 draw....no one brought really anything new that I wrote down

- Facts to back-up claims(evidence)
Donk 2
Vitty 1

Donk referenced many threads and also mentioned the one time Vitty wanted to meet at a Red Sox game and Donk with a valid point....Vitty how can I meet 1 person in a stadium of 50,000 when no one has seen your face yet

side notes. Vitty basically trashed any dog owner saying they need companionship and are losers. I am single with 2 dogs, so I took that personally

side note....both parties agreed to be civil about each others families and idk 10 minutes later each took shots at wives. Very unnecessary

side note. Vitty verified his weight, 187.4

site note....we all lost the debate. 2 50 year olds internet tough guys. In the end aren't we all on the same page trying to win money and be successful in life. I get it, political views is the reason for most drama in the world and within people, but damn, you guys have never even met and so angry with each other it blows my mind

maybe I just look at things different, but I was sitting there feeling better about myself knowing I don't battle anyone online and no ones opinions piss me off so much I get angry or wanna fight someone

both posters mentioned they were successful in poker. like for me that's GREAT NEWS and awesome for both parties. Vitty played in early 2000s when WSOP was gaining mass appeal and Donk says he plays in WSOP every year

that's great for both....so why turn it negative about who is better and I've won more money than you. Like who cares??!!!?!?!?! again for me...congrats on both being winning poker players...or claiming to be.

I respect both guys for coming onto the podcast, being on video, and for the most part respecting each other to allow each other to talk about the topics Le Martin addressed and keeping it decently civil.

Wil this change anything??? Who knows

But something I'm sure many posters were happy to finally see
I didn't see Tanko's card so I will post it here. Just like a real boxing match it is interesting to see how each other scored it. Mine would have looked similar to Tanko's but DONK by at least 2. His answers were too good on a few questions to where Vitty could have been knocked out BUT Vitty each time came back strong. The "Man" question and swinger questions took the debate to another level as did "anything positive" question.

Only way Donk was losing though was if he whipped out his Hog. Vitty, I have 3 dogs and have had dogs my whole life. The way it came out of your mouth was that we are all insecure losers. I know you didn't necessarily mean it that way but that is the way it came out and if you were running for anything you would have zero chance. We love our doggies. It was fun guys and we will keep the fun going each week. No doubt these 2 will get along at the bash as long as Le Martin is next to them.

5 Categories

Best Dressed: Donk 2, Vitty 1
Vitty's T-shirt did him in on this one. Donk had carhart shirt and kahki shorts, slight upgrade from Vitty. I'm sure they did not know this was a category.

Most Articulate: Vitterd 2, Donk 1.
Although Donk garbled his words/thoughts sometimes, but he got his point across (except at first when he stumbled a little). Altough Donk is very outspoken it was a repeat of same topic over and over. Fight, Fight, Fight. Vitty is a Democrat.
I thought Vitty got his points out more clearly.

Stone Cold Killer: Donk 2, Vittered 1
Donk wanted to fight and brough it up 20X. Pulling the 45 out sealed the deal for Donk.
Could have been a 2-0 score for Donk, but Vitty never backed down from a fight so I had to give him some credit.

Originality (brought up new stuff): Donk 1, Vitty 0
Not much here from either guy. Seemed like a rehash of the same arguments. I gave Donk 1 point for originality for the best immitation of the other guy. Vitty's imitation of Donk was flat. Couple of other original comments coming out of each of them:
Donk --> "I'll beat his ass in Philly and no bail means I'll get out and beat his ass again the same night".
Vitty --> "I'll Stamp Vitty D on my nuts and then use that to stamp Donk's forehead".
Vitty --> "Donk doesn't play poker he plays Bingo."
Donk --> "A "2" would turn him down at closing time in a bar."
Vitty --> "Donk visit Jack Shacks". (Never heard that term before).
Donk --> "Call me Donk Diggler".

Facts to Backup claims (evidence): Vitty 1, Donk 0
Nothing much on this topic. You would have to take their word on what they were saying. They both made good points about what the other had posted at both sites. There weren't any specific items brought up that could be proven as evidence. EXCEPT Vitty's weigh in. So I had ot give him a point for proving that.


6-5 Donk Winner
We could argue about a lot of things but that's how I read it.
 

MinnesotaFats

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If you can find a Senate betting prop take the GOP 51+ seats. Should be +200

538 still has Dems winning control at 60%.

I'm telling you the Republicans are taking probably 52 seats, maybe 53.

Oz at +240 in PA a good bet too.

Fetterman getting crucified in panels by Independent voters
 
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