It looks like we’re heading for a depression
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Quit being a closet Trump hater, he’s a master negotiator.
Trump saved us from the brink of a worldwide economic slowdown, maybe even a depression, last week by reversing and undoing the policies of the guy who was in office the week before.
Many of you are frozen and have to watch in amazement, but some of us trade the predictability… and we’re winning!
Thank you Trump!
Oh boy, now Lutnick says the exemption on electronic devices is temporary and that they will eventually get their own levies.
So far, officials in the Trump admin have never been on the same page as Trump, so I wonder what's real here.
Once again, they are playing with the news and presenting things both ways.
I suppose the biggest question we face, while ignoring Admin statements for now (which traders should do), is whether or not removing regulations, both safety and environmental will be enough to help growth overcome the slowdown caused by inflationary trade policies.
The Inflation President can keep his nickname, with no worries, if he can create a growth environment that will freeze the Fed from dealing with inflation.
We will run the numbers, but I'm not so sure slicing regulations alone will be enough, because that likely won't lower prices. They never lower prices.
But that should be good for corporate profits. Similar to post COVID, corportation took in record profits in the face of inflationary pressures. And what's good for coroporate profits should be good for the equity markets.
I'd ask the thread to start listing pro's and con's of the economic policy and outlook, but I'm not sure there's anyone in this thread that even understand that simple question.
Maybe @Archie , or maybe @jjgold if Gold wanted to. Props to @KingKolzig for digging in, learning, and thinking for himself here.
So far, officials in the Trump admin have never been on the same page as Trump, so I wonder what's real here.
Once again, they are playing with the news and presenting things both ways.
I suppose the biggest question we face, while ignoring Admin statements for now (which traders should do), is whether or not removing regulations, both safety and environmental will be enough to help growth overcome the slowdown caused by inflationary trade policies.
The Inflation President can keep his nickname, with no worries, if he can create a growth environment that will freeze the Fed from dealing with inflation.
We will run the numbers, but I'm not so sure slicing regulations alone will be enough, because that likely won't lower prices. They never lower prices.
But that should be good for corporate profits. Similar to post COVID, corportation took in record profits in the face of inflationary pressures. And what's good for coroporate profits should be good for the equity markets.
I'd ask the thread to start listing pro's and con's of the economic policy and outlook, but I'm not sure there's anyone in this thread that even understand that simple question.
Maybe @Archie , or maybe @jjgold if Gold wanted to. Props to @KingKolzig for digging in, learning, and thinking for himself here.
Big difference here is that the old boss didn't plan on winning, so didn't know how to do anything. That changed towards the end of the term and the new term brought with it many who would make up for the lack of efficiency of the first term.
All of this, of course, was easy to see coming.
Project 2025 laid it all out for the next Red President to be a useful idiot. Trump filled those shoes, for now, but it could have been anybody. I think they are happy with Trump because you can kiss his ass, let him play with some shiny things, and then you have free reign to use him as a useful idiot.
Well played, Red, well played.
Now it's time to Make America Great Again!!!!
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USA gonna get rich on 20% fentanyl tariffs
We could take in tons at the border, nevermind who pays.
But if China decides not to sell to us, then there will be no fee at the border.
It could go bad real quick for the US, but it doesn't have to as that's just one scenario.
You've imported from your slave Chinamen in the past, right? It could be a tradeoff between less imports costing more and a ton more imports costing less.
It's a balancing act and that could easily go back and forth for a while.
DiggityDaggityDo
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exactly. it was an innovative way to reduce the American dependence on pharmaceutical drugs.
time for boomers to detox from their vascular and metabolic disease RX addictions
as well as figure out how to supply the military with the tech components to create our advanced drone fleet, with F-46s, B-21, AI powered enabled weapons, hypersonic missiles, and advanced cyber warfare software and hardware on US soil.
maybe we can use some former soybean farms in Iowa to build more warehouses to 3D print some subs and vehicles
I'm guessing Lutnick is the first major member to get fired by Trump. He's been raked over the coals by almost everyone in the circle, and that was before today.
This from Fox Biz Senior Correspondent Charles Gasparino...
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A complete Trainwreck from day 1 with these assholes
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Our only hope to survive as a thriving nation is for Trump to run for a third term or change the constitution and he becomes a King and rules America until he dies. He is a true hero and must be respected.
Futures up a little now, probably not going to read too much into it.
Tech exemptions to the tariffs will definitely raise the markets, but the idea that they are temporary will temper those expectations.
I still don't see evidence of a turn around from the current trend and hope we don't see a dead cat bounce in the indices.
Trump admin forced to play the confusion game, but that may be 100% the fault of an overzealous commerce secretary. Lutnick may himself be trying to manipulate the markets. He was head of Cantor Fitzgerald and he likes the broad tariffs so his perspective can't be ignored.
But nobody else likes the broad stroke of tariffs, nobody. Trump did, but then they taught him the repercussions and he changed his policy despite insisting he wouldn't.
Lutnick knows the repercussions, he likes them anyway.
Lutnick becoming a sword in our Savior's side.
Tech exemptions to the tariffs will definitely raise the markets, but the idea that they are temporary will temper those expectations.
I still don't see evidence of a turn around from the current trend and hope we don't see a dead cat bounce in the indices.
Trump admin forced to play the confusion game, but that may be 100% the fault of an overzealous commerce secretary. Lutnick may himself be trying to manipulate the markets. He was head of Cantor Fitzgerald and he likes the broad tariffs so his perspective can't be ignored.
But nobody else likes the broad stroke of tariffs, nobody. Trump did, but then they taught him the repercussions and he changed his policy despite insisting he wouldn't.
Lutnick knows the repercussions, he likes them anyway.
Lutnick becoming a sword in our Savior's side.
If it‘s appropriate.
It’s efficient, especially capital efficiency, with less margin requirements, so there‘s that.
If a swing trade position were to get to big, I could use future’s to hedge.
I like futures, I haven’t really messed with them trading wise in a while.
As I ramp up trading here, we’ll see what happens with futures and currencies. One thing at a time.
Right now you can’t trust any of it lol. It’s very possible that futures don’t tell us shit.
Brock Landers
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Wait. What?
I thought they were excluded. I am so confused on what's in and what's out on tariffs.
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