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Wagerallsports

Wagerallsports

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Stop.... That's embarrassing.

  • 11 bankruptcies
  • Thousands of business lawsuits against him.
  • Mr. Art of the Deal promised to resolve Ukraine war day 1. Guranteed it even.
    Its day 74 and Russia is still toying with Trump on the negotiations. I doubt the war comes to a settlement this year.
  • His business school professor called him the dumbest student he ever had.
I could go on.
Please never call him a good businessman.
I’m not stopping

You guys insist on talking politics, then don’t get mad when the ppl who do have a clue get tired of biting their tongues and call out those who don’t

Obama and Biden aren’t your presidents anymore so get over it
 

phillyflyers

phillyflyers

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You are saying their calculation is a tool of some sort. For what?

It is basically just saying slap a bigger tariff the higher the trade deficit is.

Some countries we have massive trade deficit without tariffs imposed at all.
I'm totally not understanding what you're saying here.

The deficit we have now was accumulated, obviously, before Trump slapped tariffs on them a few days ago.

I answered your first question in my last post. It's a tool to gain leverage to negotiate a favorable to the US deal.
 

Tanko

Tanko

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I’m not stopping

You guys insist on talking politics, then don’t get mad when the ppl who do have a clue get tired of biting their tongues and call out those who don’t

Obama and Biden aren’t your presidents anymore so get over it
Never voted for them but calling Trump a good business man.... You'll never see me say that.

Why is it whenever you get called out about Trumps faults, your reply is Obama this, Biden that?
Why can't you admit Trump has faults? He is not a god. He is not a king but you treat him like one, as though he is infallible.

Tell me 5 things that you don't like about Trump.
I voted for him and I could probably list 20 off the top of my head. Why? Because, although I am a republican, I am not enamored with Trump.

He is breaking a number of promises he made on the campaign trail and, as a result, it pisses me off I voted for him now.
 
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stormtrooper8

stormtrooper8

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Never voted for them but calling Trump a good business man.... You'll never see me say that.

Why is it whenever you get called out about Trumps faults, your reply is Obama this, Biden that?
Why can't you admit Trump has faults? He is not a god. He is not a king but you treat him like one, as though he is infallible.

Tell me 5 things that you don't like about Trump.
I voted for him and I could probably list 20 off the top of my head. Why? Because, although I am a republican, I am not enamored with Trump.

He is breaking a number of promises he made on the campaign trail and, as a result, it pisses me off I voted for him now.
Lol why did you vote for him then?

He is doing exactly what he said he was gonna do
 

sleepy

sleepy

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Never voted for them but calling Trump a good business man.... You'll never see me say that.

Why is it whenever you get called out about Trumps faults, your reply is Obama this, Biden that?
Why can't you admit Trump has faults? He is not a god. He is not a king but you treat him like one, as though he is infallible.

Tell me 5 things that you don't like about Trump.
I voted for him and I could probably list 20 off the top of my head. Why? Because, although I am a republican, I am not enamored with Trump.

He is breaking a number of promises he made on the campaign trail and, as a result, it pisses me off I voted for him now.

I voted for Trump because I wanted a booming economy, all illegals deported and many democrats arrested.

0-3 on these and of course I'm down 1000's on my investments.
 

Tanko

Tanko

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Lol why did you vote for him then?

He is doing exactly what he said he was gonna do
Nope:
  • He promised to reduce gov't waste. I'm all for that. What Prez Musk is doing is not elminating waste its just cutting for the sake of cutting and only in departments that they do not like (Educ. USAID, etc...). Where's the cuts in defense?????
  • He promised to reduce prices. These tariffs are going to send us over a cliff and into a hard recession. Everyone on Wall Street and Business schools are in agreement this is going to happen.
  • He promised to end the war in Ukraine by pressuring Russia. He's not pressuring them at all. He's capitulating to them.
  • He promised that Project 2025 policies would not be in his adminstration. EVERY SINGLE executive order is from Project 2025.
I could go on.

I knew the guy was a liar of epic proportions but he's setting a new standard.
The best lie he's told. Tariffs will be paid by foriegn countries and it won't raise prices. Too many stupid people are believing that statement from him.
 

krit

krit

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Never voted for them but calling Trump a good business man.... You'll never see me say that.

Why is it whenever you get called out about Trumps faults, your reply is Obama this, Biden that?
Why can't you admit Trump has faults? He is not a god. He is not a king but you treat him like one, as though he is infallible.

Tell me 5 things that you don't like about Trump.
I voted for him and I could probably list 20 off the top of my head. Why? Because, although I am a republican, I am not enamored with Trump.

He is breaking a number of promises he made on the campaign trail and, as a result, it pisses me off I voted for him now.
The main key here is that all politicians are trash people. They want you to think it’s a democrat vs conservative, but they are more similar than you think.

Biden was trash, so is Trump. It’s not one or the other, can be said for both.
 

Tanko

Tanko

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Tariffs was/is one one of his main talking points & goals
I have no issues when he said he will use tariffs. I'm all about that.

Implementing tariffs should be done with a scalpel to get countries to come around.
What he is doing is using a nuclear bomb that will send the US into recession. All respected economists are saying how he is doing is the dumbest shit in 95 years.... You may remember the last time it was done 1930.... and what that led to.
 

Tanko

Tanko

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He’s doing something that should have been done long ago

Could he do it differently as some suggest?

i heard someone say & explain that this isn’t like a war, when you act and screw up there is no going back and fixing it

These tariffs are negotiations that can be worked out
No the way he is implementing the tariffs. Its with a bomb and not a scalpel. Its the wrong way to do it.

Trump will either capitulate via negotiations on tariffs and of course claim victory (as he always does) or we are screwed as an economy.
 

stormtrooper8

stormtrooper8

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Nope:
  • He promised to reduce gov't waste. I'm all for that. What Prez Musk is doing is not elminating waste its just cutting for the sake of cutting and only in departments that they do not like (Educ. USAID, etc...). Where's the cuts in defense?????
  • He promised to reduce prices. These tariffs are going to send us over a cliff and into a hard recession. Everyone on Wall Street and Business schools are in agreement this is going to happen.
  • He promised to end the war in Ukraine by pressuring Russia. He's not pressuring them at all. He's capitulating to them.
  • He promised that Project 2025 policies would not be in his adminstration. EVERY SINGLE executive order is from Project 2025.
I could go on.

I knew the guy was a liar of epic proportions but he's setting a new standard.
The best lie he's told. Tariffs will be paid by foriegn countries and it won't raise prices. Too many stupid people are believing that statement from him.
He was talking about DOGE and project 2025 policies almost daily on the campaign trail while simultaneously denying that he’d follow it. What government waste did you think he was talking about? He just says shit.

Why would you believe he would reduce prices? Everyone says they’re gonna reduce prices. Tariffs would obviously not do that. You can’t just magically create US demand for shit. That’s the only way tariffs can work

He has been sucking up to Russia for almost a decade now. Not sure why anyone would think he’d pressure them to do anything for peace or to benefit

The guy denies that he lost in 2020 and claims Biden caused inflation that was happening on a global level as a result of COVID. Why would you vote for any “promise” he makes?

And yes all politicians lie
 
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