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redrightred

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I understand that the world is changing, but by what mechanism does Israel cease to exist? Do you see the Israelis as packing up and moving elsewhere?

I even understand the longer game of what you're saying, but still how does that lead to the end of Israel and not, possibly the expansion of Israel?

Who will invade Israel and change the government? Do you see political parties with guns (Iran's allies) doing it?
No. Israel is South Africa. Once it loses the white world support, it is given back.
 

KVB

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No. Israel is South Africa. Once it loses the white world support, it is given back.

But South Africa is still South Africa, with the same citizenry. Actually, there was a mass exodus of some citizens.

Are you saying the Jews will all be wiped out and killed and then Israel will become an Arab nation?

What will happen to the citizens? What will happen to the nukes?

Do you think Arab people will infiltrate Israel and get elected to leadership and then just take over everything?

By what mechanism does Israel lose the massive power they have? If US support wanes, will Israel just give up?

Will the citizens one day realize things have changed and then pack up and move around the world.

Clearly, I’ve gone from just asking simple questions to giving you a lot of outs.

How do you see this playing out?
 

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Israel is completely dependent on subsidy from the US. The US will gradually withdraw that subsidy and require Israel to require Palestinian rights. That will lead to a mass exodus of Israelis over time. This is happening right now. It will then be turned over to Palestine just as South Africa was turned over. The ones that remain will have to agree to being a minority. That will not be very many.
 

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Iran is gaining power. They are aligned with China. The US no longer has hold of Iran.

Iran is broke and could be broken financially by the west and China will have no choice but to follow suit.

The west has immense influence still and Iran could end up in a revolution in their country before there is one in Israel.

Iran is afraid to flex power in the area. Nobody wants war.

So how does Israel fall? Even the UN is powerless.
 

KVB

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Israel is completely dependent on subsidy from the US. The US will gradually withdraw that subsidy and require Israel to require Palestinian rights. That will lead to a mass exodus of Israelis over time. This is happening right now. It will then be turned over to Palestine just as South Africa was turned over. The ones that remain will have to agree to being a minority. That will not be very many.

Finally, I literally prompted you on everything you just said.

I was hoping you’d be able to lay that out on your own.
 

redrightred

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Iran is broke and could be broken financially by the west and China will have no choice but to follow suit.

The west has immense influence still and Iran could end up in a revolution in their country before there is one in Israel.

Iran is afraid to flex power in the area. Nobody wants war.

So how does Israel fall? Even the UN is powerless.
Iran has oil. They are not broke. The US fought for Iraq. Iran now controls Iraq. Iran was a colony of British Petroleum. They lost it and the US took over. The US lost it to the Iranian right wing. They have weathered the storm and are now aligned with China. Their power will never be less than it is now.
 

KVB

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Iran has oil. They are not broke. The US fought for Iraq. Iran now controls Iraq. Iran was a colony of British Petroleum. They lost it and the US took over. The US lost it to the Iranian right wing. They have weathered the storm and are now aligned with China. Their power will never be less than it is now.

The west could tighten down and break Iran further. I know the world is trying to change, and I know the role of Russia, China, and Iran.

But the west could choke off a lot more than you may realize. The question is whether or not it comes to that.

A true economic war with the west could be devastating.
 

redrightred

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The west could tighten down and break Iran further. I know the world is trying to change, and I know the role of Russia, China, and Iran.

But the west could choke off a lot more than you may realize. The question is whether or not it comes to that.

A true economic war with the west could be devastating.
The US can't tighten anything. It is losing the war in Ukraine. It's weapons don't work. China is taking over the non-white world. The US gets Europe and Australia and what it can keep of Latin American and the Middle East. The Middle East is playing it both ways from now on.
 

KVB

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So now you are saying I got it all from you. But you were talking idiocy about Jews being wiped out and Arab infiltration. It was stupid even for you.

No, I’m saying, you failed to answer until I prompted you. I’m not saying you “got” anything from me.

I gave you all kinds of prompts and all kinds of outs.

So you took one. It doesn’t mean you didn’t already have it in your head. You just weren’t saying it.

Thank you.
 

redrightred

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No, I’m saying, you failed to answer until I prompted you. I’m not saying you “got” anything from me.

I gave you all kinds of prompts and all kinds of outs.

So you took one. It doesn’t mean you didn’t already have it in your head. You just weren’t saying it.

Thank you.
Don't try to play the smart guy. You are never smart. You are a fraud.
 

KVB

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Don't try to play the smart guy. You are never smart. You are a fraud.

lol Real mature guy.

I happen to agree with your take but I don't think it's inevitable or the only possibility. There are many more heels to be dug in and even Iran's gov't could change. They are getting old too.

I think it's far off either way and using the term...

Iran has Israel on the ropes

is either long term ropes or not quite the best way to phrase it given Iran could get punched hard from the west if it came down to it.

That's why I asked, "How so?"

Like I said, thank you for finally answering.
 

redrightred

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lol Real mature guy.

I happen to agree with your take but I don't think it's inevitable or the only possibility. There are many more heels to be dug in and even Iran's gov't could change. They are getting old too.

I think it's far off either way and using the term...



is either long term ropes or not quite the best way to phrase it given Iran could get punched hard from the west if it came down to it.

That's why I asked, "How so?"

Like I said, thank you for finally answering.
Yes, they will punch Iran like they punched Russia. China and Russia will get involved when the US wants to punch Iran. They already have. That is why the US punching days are over. They are getting punched out. They will have to stop swinging.
 
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