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dougtushyterror

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I will now tell my version of the story in full detail.

In mid-October 2025, I placed a $100 NASCAR bet at +1100 odds. Before the bet, he told me that if it won, he would pay me out in mid-November. I agreed to those terms.

The bet hit, and in mid-November he paid me only half the winnings. Four days later on my birthday I reached out and asked for the remaining balance, noting that it would be a nice birthday gesture to receive it then. He sent the rest shortly after, and we were square.

After that, I continued winning bets with him, eventually reaching an additional $2,000 owed. We had a mutual understanding that if either of us couldn’t pay the full amount at settlement time, we would make weekly installment payments until it was cleared. Our settlement number was $1,000.

Two weeks passed with no payments or much communication from him. I informed him that I would start charging interest on the outstanding balance due to the delay.

During our exchange, he mentioned a group of Jewish gentlemen who supposedly owed him around $100K, implying that once he received that money, he would pay me. I responded that their debt to him had nothing to do with what he owed me, and I criticized his overall business practices as disorganized and unreliable. I did not use any slurs I simply referred to the group as “Jews” (plural) in a factual context.

He then blocked me and cut off all communication for additional 2 weeks. With no response or progress on the payments, I decided then I would share my negative experience publicly on the forum as leverage to try to get paid.
I 💯 believe you but why is he all of a sudden booking your action when you could've placed that +1100 on your own at any book? Was he that confident it was gonna lose, that he figured that's a free $100 you'll be sending his way? At that point, why continue betting with him once he didn't pay back those winnings in due time? Obv I don't know either 1 of you outside of this forum, or what kind of private gambling arrangement you have between each other so I could be completely out of my depth to even stick my nose in your business. (Basically passing the time fighting insomnia until I get that inevitably negative outcome to be commenting on this).
 

JDS

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I 💯 believe you but why is he all of a sudden booking your action when you could've placed that +1100 on your own at any book? Was he that confident it was gonna lose, that he figured that's a free $100 you'll be sending his way? At that point, why continue betting with him once he didn't pay back back those winnings in due time? Obv I don't know either 1 of you outside of this forum, or what kind of private gambling arrangement you have between each other so I could be completely out of my depth to even stick my nose in your business. (Basically passing the time fighting insomnia until I get that inevitably negative outcome to be commenting on this).
Well, I was betting with him for most of the year and we never had a problem, settling both parties. So I was confident, even though there was a delay on that original $1100 payout which he stated.

He let me use BMR odds, and any kind of odds I could find it was like having money in every single sports book known to man that’s where the value was betting with him.
 

stormtrooper8

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That is about 50% truthful at best. Lot of bullshit and pretty big omission of the BigJay part though

Minny was very upfront before it all started that things could be delayed during the holidays. Whether or not you think that’s good business that is what happened and Minny showed the texts to prove that.
 

dougtushyterror

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Well, I was betting with him for most of the year and we never had a problem, settling both parties. So I was confident, even though there was a delay on that original $1100 payout which he stated.

He let me use BMR odds, and any kind of odds I could find it was like having money in every single sports book known to man that’s where the value was betting with him.
Appreciate the response jerky but the 1 huge downside is you'll never even attempt a 10 leg 80k to 100k parlay like the one you hit at WagerWeb with that arrangement knowing there's a next to 0 chance of ever getting paid out so you basically have to keep it small
 

JDS

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Appreciate the response jerky but the 1 huge downside is you'll never even attempt a 10 leg 80k to 100k parlay like the one you hit at WagerWeb with that arrangement knowing there's a next to 0 chance of ever getting paid out so you basically have to keep it small
My business relationship is over with him and I’m moving on.
 

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mamawhoiscrying

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That is about 50% truthful at best. Lot of bullshit and pretty big omission of the BigJay part though

Minny was very upfront before it all started that things could be delayed during the holidays. Whether or not you think that’s good business that is what happened and Minny showed the texts to prove that.
Den mother.

Feel like I'm back in the cub scouts.
 

Tanko

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I will now tell my version of the story in full detail.

In mid-October 2025, I placed a $100 NASCAR bet at +1100 odds. Before the bet, he told me that if it won, he would pay me out in mid-November. I agreed to those terms.

The bet hit, and in mid-November he paid me only half the winnings. Four days later on my birthday I reached out and asked for the remaining balance, noting that it would be a nice birthday gesture to receive it then. He sent the rest shortly after, and we were square.

After that, I continued winning bets with him, eventually reaching an additional $2,000 owed. We had a mutual understanding that if either of us couldn’t pay the full amount at settlement time, we would make weekly installment payments until it was cleared. Our settlement number was $1,000.

Two weeks passed with no payments or much communication from him. I informed him that I would start charging interest on the outstanding balance due to the delay.

During our exchange, he mentioned a group of Jewish gentlemen who supposedly owed him around $100K, implying that once he received that money, he would pay me. I responded that their debt to him had nothing to do with what he owed me, and I criticized his overall business practices as disorganized and unreliable. I did not use any slurs I simply referred to the group as “Jews” (plural) in a factual context.

He then blocked me and cut off all communication for additional 2 weeks. With no response or progress on the payments, I decided then I would share my negative experience publicly on the forum as leverage to try to get paid.
I appreciate you telling your side JDS.

So, the inital failure to pay, based on your post, was from Minny. He waited several days to payoff the Nascar bet after it was agreed to be paid in mid-Nov. Then, in the following weeks, after you kept winning, the expected $1,000 settlements on weekly installments did not occur as agreed. It is easy to see why you were concerned and raised red flags.

I'm not taking one person's version over the other but, I can also understand how miscommunications can occur in these types of deals. That might explain the discrepancies in decsriptions of what transpired.

I hope we can move on from this but, somehow I'm confident others will chime in to try and cause more drama. :banghead:
 

stormtrooper8

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Lol

“Hey I’ve like totally moved on and everything, but you can you go send a vague message to Stormy because him pointing out the indisputable fact that I’m a stiff on an anonymous gambling message board is really hurting my feelings”

“Sure pal! I’m a cuck square with no ability to critically think so this is right up my alley. I’ll even say I don’t want drama even though I keep creating it!”
 

stormtrooper8

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Booking on credit and using any odds at BMR? I can see the appeal from a bettor's standpoint...Minny does not seem to need the money or interested in taking a sound, disciplined approach. What does he gain?
The odds from BMR part is mostly from the past. He has a website with odds now.

I think for Minny it’s just another business venture. He’s way too wirey to stand still, for bettor or worse.
 

stormtrooper8

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Booking on credit and using any odds at BMR? I can see the appeal from a bettor's standpoint...Minny does not seem to need the money or interested in taking a sound, disciplined approach. What does he gain?
Should clarify all the betting is handled on the website as well

As long as you have adequate cash supply and yours odds are not too rogue then you’re gonna make some $ in his position

And like you mentioned, Fatty is pretty well off so no danger there
 

europro

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That is about 50% truthful at best. Lot of bullshit and pretty big omission of the BigJay part though

Minny was very upfront before it all started that things could be delayed during the holidays. Whether or not you think that’s good business that is what happened and Minny showed the texts to prove that.
oh his spokesman checking in again
 
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