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KVB

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That last hour of Trump’s speech might have been worse than Biden’s debate performance

Holy hell lol

I totally agree. I think I said in the other thread he should have quit long before he did.

He started to turn it into a campaign rally speech, and those are doozys. I've seen nearly all of them.

lmao
 

KVB

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It was an absolutely disaster

Once he ditched the teleprompter it went downhill

They were all his greatest hits from the road, no prompter needed, lol, he's said them so many times it's like a musician on tour. He knows his hits by heart.

Like I said, they're doozys.

Lauighing my ass off at the "our crime rate is up and everyone else in the world is down because they are sending all their criminals across our border."

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

Although, while I laugh, it's also a little scary at those that eat that shit up. Especially when they're not just voters, but actual candidates in congress, etc.

That does worry me a bit.
 

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They were all his greatest hits from the road, no prompter needed, lol, he's said them so many times it's like a musician on tour. He knows his hits by heart.

Like I said, they're doozys.

Lauighing my ass off at the "our crime rate is up and everyone else in the world is down because they are sending all their criminals across our border."

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

Although, while I laugh, it's also a little scary at those that eat that shit up. Especially when they're not just voters, but actual candidates in congress, etc.

That does worry me a bit.
A lot eat that shit up. It’s one of his most popular bits (the border stuff)

It’s so wrong on so many levels. This country needs a better immigration system, but the notion that we are seeing a surge in crime (crime is actually near a historic low) because of a bunch of thugs crossing the border is so mind-bogglingly false

The Republican Party has just taken that blatant lie and run with it. It is sickening, and scary

Illegals tend to be the most well-behaved people, staying low profile and just trying to support their families
 
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I'd say lines have definitely tightened for the winning party.

Harris now -1000 to be nominee at BOL

I know there's a lot to happen next few weeks but I see evidence that those of us seeing value on the dem side and seeing the election closer than the odds were really saying are looking to be right there.

Again, things can happen but it sure looks like we'll see a tighter race in the markets than the last couple of weeks and even months have traded.
 

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Biden withdrawing as a 2024 candidate had to happen. It's clear he isn't capable of being President 24/7. Whatever the polls really said in July by November they would have been worse for Biden. Harris doesn't poll any better now but she's not going to be significantly worse in November. If Harris is the nominee it would help her if she took over the presidency before the election. If someone else wins the nomination it would hurt that person if Harris took over as President without being the 2024 candidate. I don't know if there's a market on Biden vacating the presidency but with Harris -1000 for the nomination i'd like to bet on Biden stepping down.
 

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Harris now -110 to Trump's +100 on BOL.

Could be a bit of a barrier with Trump at even money as it's the belief in my office that a plus money Trump will get sold back in, at the very least, a freeroll to those of us sitting on decent underdog blue positions.

Limits vary everywhere but we believe the markets worldwide are big enough for goups to guarantee profit as the line is pressed towards the liberal side.

For those of us that felt the earlier odds were distancing themselves from a closer race than it appeared, we are seeing the expected line shift.
 

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Looking at Harris -270 over Trump +210, at BOL, to win the popular vote.

It seems a lot of voters who simply weren't going to vote for either of our choices are entering the election now, since "the change," and many are young ones even speaking with their donations, many first timers as well.

These new voters are not coming in to vote red, obviously as there was a bump for sure with the change.

On top of that, JD Vance looks to be, by just about any metric, the worst non incumbent VP pick in history, and by some metrics in at least 40 years.

It was bad enough there was no bump after a very energized GOP convention, but then he spoke; and he keeps speaking.

The reality is that Vance is not just repelling voters, he's repelling groups of voters, like women, black people, and independant voters.

We simply haven't seen the GOP side try to reach uncommitted voters, or any other voters than the base. Worse for them, it's like they are sabotaging themselves. For example, who thought it was a good idea to go in front of the NABJ and say that shit?

Pretty clear no voter was gained that day.

So it seems the red side is less likely to take over the popular vote than ever before, even if they were most likely than ever to do it just a handful of weeks ago.

We see "value" here on the Harris -270. This could easily be -500 or more and the only question remains whether or not your bet will be returned if she doesn't run in November, for whatever reason. A call to the bookmaker will be made.

Does the runner need to start the race for the bet to be valid? If so, in this case, we believe -270 is a steal.

:cheers:
 
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