Cal Raleigh Should Be MVP

[jjgold]

I’m surprised he’s a pretty big dog

 

[Archie]

yes!

it's good to have a pal

 

[jamesy2422]

I am surprised also. Judge has slowed down since the injury. Still has great overall numbers. I am a Judge guy (of course). I think Raleigh's average hurts his overall perception. Obviously he has the HR and RBI's but Judge beats in everything else for metrics. Raleigh plays catcher which makes the numbers even more impressive. Guy deserves more respect.

 

[BigJay]

I think Judge was -5000 at one point, and Cal was +2000

Agree with coach on this one. Cal should be the MVP

 

[jjgold]

Might be worth a play right now

 

[jamesy2422]

if the yankees collapse and mariners win the division, raleigh deserves serious consideration regardless if he breaks the record

raleigh's average is a problem. he would be the lowest to win since marty marrion hit 267. a low average is a bad look. shows he is all or nothing. not hating, just giving my opinion on why he does not get more love.

 

[djefferis]

He is in the conversation.

MVP should be a measure of value to the team and it’s win/loss - not individual stats.

Stats Judge wins - but where would Yankees be without him - 5 games worse, maybe 7 ?

Without Cal Mariners are bottom of the division.

Another underrated name is Jose Ramirez- quietly keeping Cleveland on the edge of contention - in a year where little went right for this team - Jose is the glue that keeps them going.

If Cleveland managed to leapfrog Seattle for last spot - watch Jose.

 

[jjgold]

Judge heard me

2 hrs tonight

 

[jamesy2422]

He is in the conversation.

MVP should be a measure of value to the team and it’s win/loss - not individual stats.

Stats Judge wins - but where would Yankees be without him - 5 games worse, maybe 7 ?

Without Cal Mariners are bottom of the division.

Another underrated name is Jose Ramirez- quietly keeping Cleveland on the edge of contention - in a year where little went right for this team - Jose is the glue that keeps them going.

If Cleveland managed to leapfrog Seattle for last spot - watch Jose.

as a yankees fan, i do agree about the yankees having a good supporting cast that would make up for judge moreso than the mariners lineup. i just think the average for raleigh is a huge factor for voters.

i like jose ramirez but i feel like he needs a little more in the numbers for this season. still 20 games. but he definitely flies under the radar a lot.

 

[jjgold]

Judge is probably gonna win if you look at the betting markets

 

[BigJay]

Cal finally the favorite after getting to 60 yesterday

Was -110 each heading into last night’s game

What did Judge do to finally fall behind in the race? Hit two himself

Raleigh was 20/1 not too long ago during the season

 

[subaru80]

Banggggg already locked in Mariners +290 to win the division from 2 months ago. Now got them +600 to win al and +2000/+1400 to win the WS.

Go Ms!

 

[jamesy2422]

i am not being a yankees fan when i say this but i feel like the voters are just voting for the bigger story as opposed to the overall best player.

i am not knocking raleigh cause he also plays catcher and i like my rookie card value now. i just can't see Cal as the MVP batting 80 points less than Judge and Judge still hitting 51 home runs. it is not like Judge "just" hit 30 this year.

and if the yankees win the division while staying ahead of the mariners then you can't even say the mariners were "better".

 

[subaru80]

Cal finally the favorite after getting to 60 yesterday

Was -110 each heading into last night’s game

What did Judge do to finally fall behind in the race? Hit two himself

Raleigh was 20/1 not too long ago during the season

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The books finally caught up and adjusted the odds to how good these Mariners are. It took them 2 months. Especially since the trade deadline

 

[jamesy2422]

Banggggg already locked in Mariners +290 to win the division from 2 months ago. Now got them +600 to win al and +2000/+1400 to win the WS.

Go Ms!

good job getting that futures bet on the division.

 

[JDS]

Banggggg already locked in Mariners +290 to win the division from 2 months ago. Now got them +600 to win al and +2000/+1400 to win the WS.

Go Ms!

You have “the best of it” with those numbers sir

 

[Tanko]

Cal finally the favorite after getting to 60 yesterday

Was -110 each heading into last night’s game

What did Judge do to finally fall behind in the race? Hit two himself

Raleigh was 20/1 not too long ago during the season

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Seems like 60 is an important threshold. It stands out. People may feel it deserves MVP recognition.

Stat Category	Aaron Judge (Yankees)	Cal Raleigh (Mariners)
Home Runs	51	60
Batting Average	.328	.243
RBIs	109	125

 

[JDS]

Seems like 60 is an important threshold. It stands out. People may feel it deserves MVP recognition.

Stat Category	Aaron Judge (Yankees)	Cal Raleigh (Mariners)
Home Runs	51	60
Batting Average	.328	.243
RBIs	109	125

I remember when Giancarlo Stanton hit 60+ dingers for the Marlins about a decade ago it seems. Then we proceeded to trade him away for what ? Something I don’t remember or that actually panned out lol.

 

[Tanko]

I remember when Giancarlo Stanton hit 60+ dingers for the Marlins about a decade ago it seems. Then we proceeded to trade him away for what ? Something I don’t remember or that actually panned out lol.

I can remember when the Marlins paid for a nice team, won the WS and then sold everything in a fire sale. It seemed like for years afterwards, anyone who was any good for them was "sold" off. That was like 25-30 years ago with Huisenga or Loria (?).

Kind of like the Pirates.

 

[JDS]

I can remember when the Marlins paid for a nice team, won the WS and then sold everything in a fire sale. It seemed like for years afterwards, anyone who was any good for them was "sold" off. That was like 25-30 years ago with Huisenga or Loria (?).

Kind of like the Pirates.

Yes that has pretty much been the narrative since then when those two guys were in charge. Yes your time frame is accurate in 97 it was Huisenga when they put a team together & won a WS. Then 03 with Loria a very special year for South Floridians.