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rolandcorts

rolandcorts

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The blockchain alone is a game changer. The record cannot be changed. Produce is being shipped and a record is kept of it's exact location and temperature at all times. It can't be changed. It'll become vital in medical use.

No one is saying that all human intervention is completely cut off. That's impossible since it can't be foolproof. Smart contracts can cut out the middleman 99% of the time, not all the time.

From day 1 I said that it will never work in sports betting because of bad lines, time changes or all of the other problems that can occur but smart contracts are changing the world.
You keep stating stuff that just isn't true. There are no smart contracts doing anything important.

A gambling contract is the easiest contract in the world and 'smart contracts' can't even handle the "complexities" of it. A rental contract? Also impossible. Now imagine a billion dollar contract to construct an airport or something. As if. It's been 7 years, where are these smart contracts!?

I didn't even get into how centralized the ownership is or that you're trusting some 3rd party not to simply mint more of it. I assume Helium can mint a bunch of their own token, too.

It could tale

People are conflating issues. Helium is a business, that's centralized. Data is being transferred peer to peer.
Huh? Helium can control those p2p interactions just like a bank controls Zelle transactions.

Bitcoin is truly p2p except that because people haven't adopted it as a medium of exchange, there are centralized on/off ramps. But if everyone transacted in BTC, it would be truly p2p.

At least NFTs finally fell on their face as anyone could've seen coming. Just waiting for ETH/SOL and stablecoins to join them (stablecoins are another centralized joke of an idea).

Blockchain for voting and Ukraine funding would be nice but also don't solve other realistic problems.
 

stormtrooper8

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The blockchain alone is a game changer. The record cannot be changed. Produce is being shipped and a record is kept of it's exact location and temperature at all times. It can't be changed. It'll become vital in medical use.

No one is saying that all human intervention is completely cut off. That's impossible since it can't be foolproof. Smart contracts can cut out the middleman 99% of the time, not all the time.

From day 1 I said that it will never work in sports betting because of bad lines, time changes or all of the other problems that can occur but smart contracts are changing the world.
Bingo
 

raiders72001

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You keep stating stuff that just isn't true. There are no smart contracts doing anything important.

A gambling contract is the easiest contract in the world and 'smart contracts' can't even handle the "complexities" of it. A rental contract? Also impossible. Now imagine a billion dollar contract to construct an airport or something. As if. It's been 7 years, where are these smart contracts!?

I didn't even get into how centralized the ownership is or that you're trusting some 3rd party not to simply mint more of it. I assume Helium can mint a bunch of their own token, too.


Huh? Helium can control those p2p interactions just like a bank controls Zelle transactions.

Bitcoin is truly p2p except that because people haven't adopted it as a medium of exchange, there are centralized on/off ramps. But if everyone transacted in BTC, it would be truly p2p.

At least NFTs finally fell on their face as anyone could've seen coming. Just waiting for ETH/SOL and stablecoins to join them (stablecoins are another centralized joke of an idea).

Blockchain for voting and Ukraine funding would be nice but also don't solve other realistic problems.
There are thousands of DApps built on Ethereum alone. Those are all smart contracts at work. Millions of smart contracts have been deployed.

Veve is even bouncing back and is on a nice uptick. Digital collectibles aren't going away, it's just starting with metaverses, VR, AR. You can have your NFT enter into a metaverse. We are nearing the point of Ready Player One.

 
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raiders72001

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Smart contracts in finance. https://hedera.com/learning/smart-contracts/smart-contracts-finance

Smart Contracts in Finance: The Arrow is Up​

Traditional finance relies heavily on paper-based systems and third-party intermediaries. These methods involve steps and people in ways that can lead to inefficiency, fraud, and a lack of privacy. Smart contracts' ability to efficiently handle automated processes makes them an ideal solution for financial services. Smart contracts in finance can help a business or individual to tokenize assets, use cryptocurrency, or automate transactions.

Still, many professionals and consumers may not understand the wealth of financial use cases smart contracts have. Smart contracts represent hope for smoother legal processes, workflow management, regulatory compliance, and clearing and settlement in the financial markets and international trade. In this article, we'll look at some examples of how these self-executing contracts and changing traditional financial models.

The three types of smarts contracts​



Smart legal contracts​

In many cases, smart contracts are not legally binding. Unlike traditional contracts, a smart contract is usually just computer code that can execute automatically when predetermined conditions are met. However, a subset of smart contracts can establish contractual obligations that are defined automatically within the program.

Smart legal contracts are a huge leap forward for decentralized finance applications, as these services are rarely regulated the same way as traditional finance tools. Automated legal contracts give users an added layer of safety without hiring a lawyer to write a paper contract.

Still, several challenges may arise when using smart legal contracts. Smart contracts are immutable, meaning they cannot be altered after deployment. Contract law generally allows for the parties involved to modify an agreement after a contract is signed. This isn't always possible with smart contracts.

Because smart contracts are autonomous, legal agreements may not always be enforceable. For example, if one of the anonymous users entering the agreement is a minor, the contract likely couldn't be enforced. Smart legal contracts use blockchain technology, meaning anyone can view them once they're deployed. The public nature of these contracts can be problematic for certain financial institutions. Still, when used correctly, smart legal contracts can simplify legal processes for everyone involved.

DAO​

DAOs, decentralized autonomous organizations, are community-led projects with no central authority. These entities typically let users propose and vote on significant changes. In many cases, participants use a specific DAO token to vote. These tokens can be bought and sold, and their value may increase based on the project's actions. Each participant has a financial incentive to vote responsibly and do what they can to help the project succeed.

The participants' votes can be viewed on the blockchain's decentralized ledgers. There is no way for the project's creator to game the system. DAOs can be used in the financial services industry to democratize compliance checking and asset allocation. They also can give investors a viable reason to support a company or project.

Application logic contracts (ALCs)​

ALCs work alongside IoT (internet of things) devices to link the internet with the real world. ALCs can be used to validate information shared between IoT devices.

ALCs and IoT devices are prominent in the financial industry, though users might not realize it. For example, smart ATMs equipped with sensors can inform their operators when they need maintenance. Smartwatches and other wearables often enable contactless digital payments that communicate with your bank.

In the future, we may see ALCs used to link wearables and other IoT devices with the blockchain.

The advantages of smart contracts​



Tokenization​

Smart contracts enable financial institutions to represent physical assets with digital tokens. Gold, diamonds, and other precious materials can be tokenized and fractionalized, letting people invest in them without physical storage. Tokenizing physical goods using blockchain solutions can lead to reduced transaction costs, faster trade clearing and settlement, and more secure peer-to-peer transactions.

Asset tokenization doesn't always involve physical goods. Companies like Overstock.com have created digital dividend tokens to automate certain corporate actions and reduce administrative costs.

Know your customer (KYC)​

KYC guidelines require accounting firms, banks, and other financial institutions to try to verify their customers' identity and suitability. These checks often prevent interactions with individuals or businesses involved in money laundering or bribery. KYC can be a time-consuming, resource-intensive endeavor. Luckily, smart contracts can speed this process up exponentially.

Using privileged nodes, a company can send requests to certification nodes that check to ensure the organization has the necessary consent to receive information from another business or individual. This information can be encrypted and stored on the blockchain with stable and secure processes. Before smart contracts, this process could take several days, as the secondary entity manually sent the information or documents to the company making the request. In some cases, a third party could be required to verify the authenticity of the documents.

Insurance claim processing​

Smart contracts offer lower costs and faster payouts for insurance policies. Still, they aren't suitable for every type of insurance. These programs automatically execute if/and statements, making them ideal for travel insurance and similar policies. For example, automated contracts can pay insured individuals a specific sum as soon as a flight is canceled or delayed.

Smart contracts can be used alongside IoT devices for agricultural insurance, automatically paying out a specific sum in the event of a natural disaster or another covered incident.

Banking with smart contracts​

Banks are centralized entities that provide loans and store funds for individuals and businesses. Smart contracts enable decentralized methods of accomplishing the same things. For example, smart contracts allow peer-to-peer lending, eliminating the need for third-party intermediaries. Such transactions happen instantaneously, unlike with paper-based systems, and enable flash loans that are borrowed and returned in seconds.

Companies, such as Tassat, tokenize bank deposits for secure B2B transactions on a private, permissioned blockchain. Since TassatPay doesn't use stablecoins or a public blockchain, it is inherently safer for business transactions. This is an example of implementing smart contracts in new ways.

Using smart contracts in finance​

Smart contracts enable seamless, secure transactions and various features ideal for the financial services industry. Hedera's secure distributed ledger technology, Hashgraph, offers financial institutions everything they need to automate and improve their workflow. HBAR and tokens created using the Hedera Token Service settle in seconds. Additionally, Hedera's public records let auditors, regulators, and partners verify user requests safely and transparently via smart contract.

Keeping up with KYC regulations is essential to the financial services industry. Luckily, blockchain solutions like Hedera easily let you define account-level KYC verification.
 

rex

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Current mining fees of ~ $12 make small transactions impractical.

Can't spend 12 bucks to send 100 to the bookie.

Litecoin the way to go for now until btc fees return to being reasonable.
 

redthetiger

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I got lucky with a withdrawal happening right before BTC shot up recently which eased the pain, but still I hate paying huge fees. Thanks for the tip about Litecoin. I just bought some and transferred it to my wallet. Super fast and close to zero fees, awesome!
 

raiders72001

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The whole Solana ecosystem is taking off. Next dump SOL, RAY, ORCA look good. RAY and ORCA are Solana DEXs. Could be like last run when UNI was a nice play since a lot of times ERC-20s weren't on central exchanges. It's taking a lot of time for the SOL tokens to get listed, DEXs could boom. Also have NEON since it's the first EVM on Solana.
 

raiders72001

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Why? Fees have been high like this many many times in the past, if not worse, and they eventually come down when miners enter to profit off of them.

It can't and won't stay like this permanently.
The Taproot upgrade has allowed people to attach NFTs to bitcoin transactions. This is jacking up the fees and causing a log jam. In order to stop this they can get rid of Taproot or miners can stop confirming ordinals.
 

rolandcorts

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No, I mean why do you think that's bad?
Fees are often high when money is flooding into BTC. Money flooding into BTC = higher demand = higher BTC price. That is, until more miners enter to take advantage of the high fees which brings it down to its usual level.
Basic economics
 

raiders72001

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WIF has gone up 176x since all time low Dec 13 but that's the most risky thing that you'll ever find. BONK risky too. Everything else in SOL ecosystem is fairly safe and will do well. RAY, ORCA types to go with SOL.
 
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