KVB what is the book thinking?

[MinnesotaFats]

You see this live option today. Makes 0 sense. What is the book thinking?

 

[Tanko]

So that was right after WAS scored to make it 35-13 in the 4Q, right?
Wow. I hope you got some of that easy money.

 

[KVB]

So that was right after WAS scored to make it 35-13 in the 4Q, right?
Wow. I hope you got some of that easy money.

Based on the timing this is after the score was 35-13 and Titans had punted, giving WAS a 22 point lead and the ball.

This line could be a mistake.

The LIVE line only really traded in the -30s when the score was 28-0 in the first half. It really never got back up there again.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

This is why books lose money occasionally.

 

[KVB]

This is why books lose money occasionally.

Nah, most books won't pay, saying it was a bad line.

And they get away with it.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Nah, most books won't pay, saying it was a bad line.

And they get away with it.

It can't be declared bad because it is after (immediately) the Ertz TD, which is a 2 minute break. But the the O/U looks retarded to boot.

To declare it a bad line while it's after a score and during a break, kickoff & change of possession time out would be grounds for a true complaint. Dies anyone know anyone working with Bovada that could offer insight?

 

[KVB]

It can't be declared bad because it is after (immediately) the Ertz TD, which is a 2 minute break. But the the O/U looks retarded to boot.

To declare it a bad line while it's after a score and during a break, kickoff & change of possession time out would be grounds for a true complaint. Dies anyone know anyone working with Bovada that could offer insight?

It doesn't matter when it's put up, before or after a score, during a break, etc. You're just babbling.

A typo is a typo is typo, no matter when it was put up.

 

[KVB]

Like I said...

And they get away with it.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

so it's "a bad line" is just the answer.

Draft Kings loses $300 million because they post stupid lines, but what- they don't declare theirs "bad lines"?

This is what I was referring to when I posted earlier about their losses stemming from teasers & live action.

Michigan yesterday live was only -250 as they marched for the GW FG with under 1 minute left.

Id love to see if Bovada refused to pay anyone out on that.

 

[KVB]

This is what I was referring to when I posted earlier about their losses stemming from teasers & live action.

You are still wrong.

Nobody's business is hurting because of all in bettors "exploiting" bad lines or any LIVE lines for that matter.

DK told you where their losses came from when going over their financials.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

You are still wrong.

Nobody's business is hurting because of all in bettors "exploiting" bad lines or any LIVE lines for that matter.

DK told you where their losses came from when going over their financials.

Doesn't the term "unfavorable outcomes" refer to incompetent line setting? They create the market after all...

 

[lekidecincinnati]

kirk cousins 4 ints

hall of fame membership revoked

 

[MinnesotaFats]

kirk cousins 4 ints

hall of fame membership revoked

He's about to take a 3rd team to the playoffs. How many QBs done that before?

 

[MinnesotaFats]

It wasn't a bad line. Bovada stands by it. So again, what is the logic behind it?

I'm curious if anyone can explain this thinking that is occurring with 'the geniuses' that set lines.

 

[KVB]

Doesn't the term "unfavorable outcomes" refer to incompetent line setting? They create the market after all...

No.

It's like you aren't even trying.

 

[KVB]

It wasn't a bad line. Bovada stands by it. So again, what is the logic behind it?

I'm curious if anyone can explain this thinking that is occurring with 'the geniuses' that set lines.

Ok, so they got slammed on the favorite and adjusted. Hopefully they got the action they wanted.

You're talking about Bovada here, they're not exactly a sharp shop.

It's very clear to me that you have no idea what the line is for, how it might move, why it might move, nor how the market is structured or operates in any way.

Like I said, it's like you're not even trying.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

KVB I respect these opinions but they simply are not adding up.

With a whole qtr left & 48 on the board already, the book posts a spread of an additional 8 points, yet a live over of 1.5 points.

Bovada, the highest rated book on this site btw, stands by the math. I would like to know the logic behind this math, the live lines in general and their philosophy towards teasers.

When publicly traded books bleed cash, and you see off shore lines like this, I want to know what the standard is for setting live lines, because CLEARLY this is low hanging fruit.

 

[lekidecincinnati]

He's about to take a 3rd team to the playoffs. How many QBs done that before?

playoffs u talking playoffsur guy bout be benched falcons going no where bucs winning nfc south falcons are frauds

 

[KVB]

KVB I respect these opinions but they simply are not adding up.

With a whole qtr left & 48 on the board already, the book posts a spread of an additional 8 points, yet a live over of 1.5 points.

Bovada, the highest rated book on this site btw, stands by the math. I would like to know the logic behind this math, the live lines in general and their philosophy towards teasers.

When publicly traded books bleed cash, and you see off shore lines like this, I want to know what the standard is for setting live lines, because CLEARLY this is low hanging fruit.

Just stop.

First of all, you don't know what bovada stands behind because you didn't bet it and get paid. There not going tell you they messed up unless you have a ticket showing.

But the line doesn't have to be a mistake.

It's blowvada for crying out loud.

But you don't understand that. You don't understand why they would move a line there, you think it's some grand math mistake. Now you're talking about low hanging fruit, LMAO.

You really need to reread what I'm telling you about what you don't know. At the very least, you need clue yourself in on the fact that there are CLEARLY things you don't know about the basics of the sportsbetting line. When it comes to the industry, and a company like DK reporting, you are even worse.

Common man. At least try.

This thread is ridiculous when it turns out how clueless you really are.

LMAO.

 

[KVB]

Alright, maybe I'm coming down too hard.

Look, I'll just take you to the beginning, and leave it there.

If you didn't buy a ticket at that line, or know somebody who did that got paid there, then you don't even know if it traded there.

But even if it did trade there, it was likely run up. There were clients who wanted the favorite and likely paid a heavy spread price for it.

Are you understanding it yet? Are you getting it?

THE BOOK MAY HAVE BEEN RESPONDING TO ACTION THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE.

Read the all caps sentence again. Now if you think the action they were willing to take, not all, just what I am referring to, is action on the dog, then you need to rethink what happened here. After all, the books are responding to action that they were willing to take in. That response was a rise in the favorite's spread.

That means, before responding, they had to take action on the favorite. Right?

Something had to stop the rise in the line. That would be a bet on the dog. A bet you seem to think will break the bank because, for some reason, you want to ignore all the bets that led that line to rise.

Strange, but your behavior is born out of ignorance to what the point spread is for, and thus why it might move.