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fedex11204

fedex11204

Joined
Sep 23, 2024
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Im shaking writing this cause I can’t believe what’s being done to me so before this the Nfl season I made a deposit of $500 using Zelle and now finally after a 30x rollover i have a balance of $17,858. Yesterday I tried to make a withdrawal and they told me to call them so that’s what I did and subsequently told me that they found that an account associated with my address had disputed a charge in 2016!!! (mind you I have no clue what they’re talking about and since then they have gladly taken tons of deposits from me but now they suddenly bring this up when i’m finally making a withdrawal ) they’re deducting $2800 so I push back and said listen you guys can do whatever you want because there’s no way I can push back cause there’s no authority but you’re gonna lose my business and I’m going to plaster all over the web about my experience so then they tell me how about if we only take off half I said listen It just seems very shady after I rack up a big balance suddenly now you’re trying to find ways of taking my money. anyway today I login and I see my account is suspended, and they have decided to confiscate my whole balance and obviously closing my account for good. I don’t know if anyone here can help me but man stay away from your wager. I posted a thread earlier in the year if I Should be worried about getting paid with YW and you all said no worries they might charge you 2% but no worries. Well, I guess we were all wrong.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Some details would be helpful here:

- You say you deposited $500 “before the NFL season” with a 30x RO. When did you deposit and what was the offer ? 30x RO is extreme / even for YouWager bonuses.

- You state you have made several deposits with YouWager - when ? Since you were working on a deposit made “before the NFL season” / when were these deposits made? Did you cash out or go bust on these ?

- Have you filed a dispute with any forum or other dispute mediation service ?

- Why do you think they are taking $2800 for a chargeback ? Have you charged back ANY sportsbook in the past ?

I highly doubt there would be an issue of getting paid from YW here. Bottom line is you’re lucky they are not invalidating all wagers and declaring “player fraud/bonus abuse” of the chargeback was on one of their books. Of course many books share a processor - so it could be a now defunct book you charged back.

As mentioned - books take charge backs seriously. Why would they make one up and say it was only $2800 if you have a balance of over 17k - again - they COULD say the number was much bigger - or just deny payment in full if they wanted.

Finally - what makes you think they WANT your business - you not only have a chargeback on your record but beat them out of several thousand dollars. Books want profitable customers. Likewise / why should posters rally around behind you in protest ? Book is being more than fair in my opinion in paying you what is owed less what was charged back - as is reasonable. If I was in similar position - exactly what I would be doing while also closing your account and advising any future attempts to play would result in forfeiture of funds.
 

fedex11204

fedex11204

Joined
Sep 23, 2024
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Some details would be helpful here:

- You say you deposited $500 “before the NFL season” with a 30x RO. When did you deposit and what was the offer ? 30x RO is extreme / even for YouWager bonuses.

- You state you have made several deposits with YouWager - when ? Since you were working on a deposit made “before the NFL season” / when were these deposits made? Did you cash out or go bust on these ?

- Have you filed a dispute with any forum or other dispute mediation service ?

- Why do you think they are taking $2800 for a chargeback ? Have you charged back ANY sportsbook in the past ?

I highly doubt there would be an issue of getting paid from YW here. Bottom line is you’re lucky they are not invalidating all wagers and declaring “player fraud/bonus abuse” of the chargeback was on one of their books. Of course many books share a processor - so it could be a now defunct book you charged back.

As mentioned - books take charge backs seriously. Why would they make one up and say it was only $2800 if you have a balance of over 17k - again - they COULD say the number was much bigger - or just deny payment in full if they wanted.

Finally - what makes you think they WANT your business - you not only have a chargeback on your record but beat them out of several thousand dollars. Books want profitable customers. Likewise / why should posters rally around behind you in protest ? Book is being more than fair in my opinion in paying you what is owed less what was charged back - as is reasonable. If I was in similar position - exactly what I would be doing while also closing your account and advising any future attempts to play would result in forfeiture of funds.
 

fedex11204

fedex11204

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Sep 23, 2024
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from 2016 till 2024 I must’ve made over 100 deposits at least with them and now suddenly when I make a considerable withdrawal they start making problems and remember they’re not just confiscating $2000 although that was the original plan they have now decided to confiscate the whole entire balance of almost $18,000.
 

fedex11204

fedex11204

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Sep 23, 2024
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in addition, I’m only ever used Zelle or bitcoin this is just another way of some of these offshore sports books who are broke trying to finagle themselves out of paying their customers when it comes to a big balance
 

fedex11204

fedex11204

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Sep 23, 2024
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now let’s play devils advocate. Let’s say some other account associated with me did a chargeback which I never did so you let me deposit over 100 times from 2016 till 2024 now when I have a big balance to withdraw now you tell me after a decade of playing with them and depositing thousands and thousands of dollars now they’re going to confiscate my whole balance you’re gonna tell me that’s not shady
 

thefix

thefix

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Feb 17, 2023
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now let’s play devils advocate. Let’s say some other account associated with me did a chargeback which I never did so you let me deposit over 100 times from 2016 till 2024 now when I have a big balance to withdraw now you tell me after a decade of playing with them and depositing thousands and thousands of dollars now they’re going to confiscate my whole balance you’re gonna tell me that’s not shady
Books do not expend energy on vetting deposits, that would be an incredible waste of effort. It is only when someone put in for a withdrawal that they start applying the checks and balances to proceed. Ultimately, IF you charged back a deposit to them years ago and still kept depositing via other methods later, you were playing with fire and just did not get burnt until now.
 

Miz

Miz

Joined
Oct 19, 2021
Messages
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There has to be more going on than what is in this thread. YW has been around for decades, and can't afford to stiff customers (ask bovada how stiffing folks went for them). Why would you start threatening them right out of the gate? You have to treat them with respect and work through it. If you had been polite they may have not locked your account. At least get most of it out while you resolve the disputed 2800. Ask them what they need from you to demonstrate it wasn't you (or if it was you, then just take the 2800 hit). They pay, and always have. Every time i have heard of a dispute w them, it was a legit issue and they compromised with the player in some way. Never heard of them locking up 17k on someone.
 

vco

vco

Joined
Dec 26, 2024
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We would like to take this opportunity to clarify a few important points regarding our company, You Wager.

As a well-established operator in the industry, we have built a solid reputation over the years for being reliable, fair, and committed to providing a great experience for all our customers. Our track record speaks for itself, as we have consistently demonstrated our ability to pay our customers on time, without issues.

Regarding the current situation, we want to clarify that we have solid evidence to demonstrate that the funds in question were indeed owed. The customer who has raised this complaint has a history of multiple account creations, not only with us but also with other sportsbooks. Our thorough investigation reveals that this individual’s accounts are clearly linked, and the information provided shows a strong pattern of circumvention of our restrictions and controls. It is evident that the intent was to bypass the measures we have in place to ensure fairness and integrity for all our players.

We take pride in offering exceptional customer service, and our customers continually express their satisfaction with our support. We are dedicated to providing each legitimate player with the highest level of care and attention. At the same time, we are vigilant in protecting our platform from those who may attempt to play unfairly.

We firmly believe in fairness and transparency in all our operations. You Wager is a strong, reliable, and trustworthy company that stands by its word and ensures that all of our players are treated with respect. We will continue to maintain our high standards and look forward to delivering an excellent experience to all our valued customers.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Shocking to hear OP version of events isn’t close to what the book is stating.

It’s pretty simple - no normal person deposits “100’s” of times using CC/Venmo or similar methods but never cashes out once.

Funny how the story changed from the book offering payout less the chargeback to the book was taking all funds AFTER I suggested this was a recourse if the book found multiple accounts/circumventing bonus restrictions - with this change being made on Christmas Day nonetheless.

I am not one to blindly trust a book over a poster - but with what limited info we have here - I can tell you whose story sounds more reasonable.
 

fedex11204

fedex11204

Joined
Sep 23, 2024
Messages
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We would like to take this opportunity to clarify a few important points regarding our company, You Wager.

As a well-established operator in the industry, we have built a solid reputation over the years for being reliable, fair, and committed to providing a great experience for all our customers. Our track record speaks for itself, as we have consistently demonstrated our ability to pay our customers on time, without issues.

Regarding the current situation, we want to clarify that we have solid evidence to demonstrate that the funds in question were indeed owed. The customer who has raised this complaint has a history of multiple account creations, not only with us but also with other sportsbooks. Our thorough investigation reveals that this individual’s accounts are clearly linked, and the information provided shows a strong pattern of circumvention of our restrictions and controls. It is evident that the intent was to bypass the measures we have in place to ensure fairness and integrity for all our players.

We take pride in offering exceptional customer service, and our customers continually express their satisfaction with our support. We are dedicated to providing each legitimate player with the highest level of care and attention. At the same time, we are vigilant in protecting our platform from those who may attempt to play unfairly.

We firmly believe in fairness and transparency in all our operations. You Wager is a strong, reliable, and trustworthy company that stands by its word and ensures that all of our players are treated with respect. We will continue to maintain our high standards and look forward to delivering an excellent experience to all our valued
It seems that You Wager has laid out their case, painting me as a player who intended to defraud their book. The reality is quite different. First, let me start off by saying that I have been involved in sports betting for the past 20 years. I have played with many books, all without incident. In fact, I have been playing with You Wager for the past 8 years without incident. Since the time of their claim, which they state occurred in 2016, I have placed many bets and received many payouts from You Wager, albeit in smaller amounts. The timing seems quite interesting considering that now that I have accrued a large balance of $18,000, suddenly You Wager is doing investigative journalism to “discover” a charge back. If we are to take You Wager’s claim at face value, it would seem to be a reasonable action to close my account or charge me the amount of the **********, which they claim is $2800. What rationale can they lay out to justify the possession of my entire balance in the amount of $18,000? This seems like the actions of a book that perhaps is looking to get out of a large payout. Again, if there was a problem with a **********, why continue to accept my business and make payouts to me? Not for a short period of time, but for the past 8 years! I suggest that perhaps they should fire their accountant if problematic transactions do not come to light for almost a decade!

I do not recall charging back $2800. However, as an experienced player, it is clear that if I were a habitual scammer, I would not be able to conduct business as I have for the length of time I have and if I were a professional scammer, You Wager would have more of a history of charge backs to present over the course of the past 8 years. In fact, all of my deposits have been made bitcoin or zelle. Hardly the actions of someone looking to make habitual chargebacks and defraud book.

You Wager should pay me what they owe. If they deem it necessary to close my account, then that is their right and I will do business elsewhere. If they feel they must deduct the alleged $2800 as well, then I disagree but again, will take my money elsewhere. If You Wager decides to steal $18,000 of my money, which was acquired with much time and effort, that I do not accept and call on all those who can influence this unfair and illegitimate decision to speak up and ensure that books continue to make payouts rather than make false claims about their patrons.
 

fedex11204

fedex11204

Joined
Sep 23, 2024
Messages
11
It seems that You Wager has laid out their case, painting me as a player who intended to defraud their book. The reality is quite different. First, let me start off by saying that I have been involved in sports betting for the past 20 years. I have played with many books, all without incident. In fact, I have been playing with You Wager for the past 8 years without incident. Since the time of their claim, which they state occurred in 2016, I have placed many bets and received many payouts from You Wager, albeit in smaller amounts. The timing seems quite interesting considering that now that I have accrued a large balance of $18,000, suddenly You Wager is doing investigative journalism to “discover” a charge back. If we are to take You Wager’s claim at face value, it would seem to be a reasonable action to close my account or charge me the amount of the **********, which they claim is $2800. What rationale can they lay out to justify the possession of my entire balance in the amount of $18,000? This seems like the actions of a book that perhaps is looking to get out of a large payout. Again, if there was a problem with a **********, why continue to accept my business and make payouts to me? Not for a short period of time, but for the past 8 years! I suggest that perhaps they should fire their accountant if problematic transactions do not come to light for almost a decade!

I do not recall charging back $2800. However, as an experienced player, it is clear that if I were a habitual scammer, I would not be able to conduct business as I have for the length of time I have and if I were a professional scammer, You Wager would have more of a history of charge backs to present over the course of the past 8 years. In fact, all of my deposits have been made bitcoin or zelle. Hardly the actions of someone looking to make habitual chargebacks and defraud book.

You Wager should pay me what they owe. If they deem it necessary to close my account, then that is their right and I will do business elsewhere. If they feel they must deduct the alleged $2800 as well, then I disagree but again, will take my money elsewhere. If You Wager decides to steal $18,000 of my money, which was acquired with much time and effort, that I do not accept and call on all those who can influence this unfair and illegitimate decision to speak up and ensure that books continue to make payouts rather than make false claims about their patrons.
 

vco

vco

Joined
Dec 26, 2024
Messages
4
VCO/Youwager:

Thanks for stopping by. Why do you charge some customers 2% upon Bitcoin withdrawals, but not others?

BAUS
The 2% payout fee only applies to professional players who are classified as non-recreational. That’s why it affects just a select few, and not all players. You can find more details about this in our help section, where it’s easy for everyone to see and review.
 
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