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[rolandcorts]

bet105, in their very young existence, has already been caught canceling winning wagers after the fact due to "bad lines" which are not bad at all. Just like nitrogen.

Avoid.

 

[btcfan]

Interesting. I had that situation at Nitro. I thought (from a podcast I listen to) it was related to live odds that were essentially were not getting updated. They paid the first bet but not the repeated "firing" of bets. I honestly have no idea, just what they discussed on the podcast.

Still raises flags, just wondered if you heard of another case other than that one.

 

[rolandcorts]

There's a big discussion about it on twitter. Last it stood, the bettor was very much in the right and bet105 let him have the last word and offered nothing to contradict the facts presented by the bettor. They did also cancel losing wagers (unlike Nitro), but there was no evidence of any justification for canceling any of them.

 

[evdaily]

No I haven't. Have been up pretty good with them but then busted out working on my rollover.

Thanks for the heads up and the reply. Very much appreciated!

 

[evdaily]

They paid my buddy almost 10k. Typical KYC stuff. Not too crazy.
I would still advise caution. Newer book with little track record.

Thanks for the heads up. Yes exactly, I am thinking of signing up there but still a little hesitant as I think more time needs to pass to see if customers are getting paid.

 

[evdaily]

bettors den, has paid me multiple times. but they are still new. bet105 has treated me well also, multiple payouts, but again they are new also. so far so good on both. bovada has stiffed in the past but seems like less lately. surprisingly betmania under new management has paid recently and has rebet function. xbet and mybookie are both F- , known stiffs and slow/no pays.

youwager solid, betus solid (as in they pay every time)

Thanks for the input! Very much appreciated. What were you betting at bettorsden ie. just pregame reduced juice stuff or were you messing around with the live/halftime stuff as well? If I was to just bet the pregame reduced juice stuff do you think they would limit you quickly?

 

[Miz]

only pregame, mostly MLB (got limited to like 1k maybe i forget?) . good lines there for that. I would say it is likely they will limit quickly. They're small and I actually think it is good that they limit quickly, because it shows competence. That means they are more likely to remain solvent.

 

[Miz]

Cashbet is F

They are stiffs.

Do you have first hand evidence on this? I am asking just to clarify, not to challenge what you are saying. Thanks

 

[Miz]

only pregame, mostly MLB (got limited to like 1k maybe i forget?) . good lines there for that. I would say it is likely they will limit quickly. They're small and I actually think it is good that they limit quickly, because it shows competence. That means they are more likely to remain solvent.

Sorry, i read the message too fast. Reduced juice has low limits already, but MLB lines are good anyway. I think I went from 5k or more down to 1k limits on pregame non reduced bets. never bet live myself.

 

[rolandcorts]

Do you have first hand evidence on this? I am asking just to clarify, not to challenge what you are saying. Thanks

Yes

 

[evdaily]

Sorry, i read the message too fast. Reduced juice has low limits already, but MLB lines are good anyway. I think I went from 5k or more down to 1k limits on pregame non reduced bets. never bet live myself.

Hey Miz,

No worries. I appreciate the reply and info. Yes I would stay away from the live there. The Dynamic Lines are exactly the same as 5Dimes Dynamic Lines and they are super easy to beat. I believe the Reduce Juice Lines are a maximum of $500 (that you can win). Were you also limited on the Reduced Juice Lines or just the Non-Reduced Juice Lines?

 

[Ace7550]

Yes

So descriptive Roland

 

[Miz]

Hey Miz,

No worries. I appreciate the reply and info. Yes I would stay away from the live there. The Dynamic Lines are exactly the same as 5Dimes Dynamic Lines and they are super easy to beat. I believe the Reduce Juice Lines are a maximum of $500 (that you can win). Were you also limited on the Reduced Juice Lines or just the Non-Reduced Juice Lines?

If i recall, the MLB moneylines didn't have a reduced option (just RL and totals), so yes the limits extended for me to non-reduced. I haven't checked other sports. They may be higher, but I only played MLB there.

 

[Stoicboy]

Is this the full list of books? Or is there any others that payout and have prop builder

 

[keithrichard]

If i recall, the MLB moneylines didn't have a reduced option (just RL and totals), so yes the limits extended for me to non-reduced. I haven't checked other sports. They may be higher, but I only played MLB there.

Actually MLs are reduced also.

 

[Miz]

Yep, I think just by default, the only one available are dime lines

 

[evdaily]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I was just curious if BettorsDen would limit you further on reduced juice pre-game lines for the four North American sports leagues as in a sense they are already limiting you as the maximum you can to win is $500.

 

[gambler718]

T

S Tier

-BetAnySports

-BookMaker/JustBet

-BetOnline/SportsBetting.ag

A Tier
-Bovada (C Tier if you take a bonus)

-YouWager (Make sure to say YouWager adversities free crypto payouts on OSGA so you don’t get hit with their BS 2 percent fee)

-MyBookie/Xbet

B Tier

-BetUS

-WagerWeb

C Tier

-BetNow (Changed their payout limits 10 times in 1 year. ($8,000 a month crypto)

-Heritage (Used to be A)

-DSI

-Wager Web

-Heritage

-Jazz/LooseLines ($2500 a week payouts but pay quickly unlike our buddies at EveryGame)

-America’s Bookie (Only go for Mike, he’s great)

D Tier

-BetMania/BetPheonix/Their Entire Family

F Tier
-EveryGame.eu (Sweat your Payout, and get suckered in with fake offers that they don’t honor)

Try bet105… just signed up yesterday, cashed out 20k in 5 mins. 50k limits on football and can cashout 100k per week..

 

[gambler718]

Bet105 seems for real, I would place them over BAS now. BAS was my favorite until they limited me. Bookmaker fam is #1 overall though

 

[jspriggs99]

Do you have first hand evidence on this? I am asking just to clarify, not to challenge what you are saying. Thanks

I've been scammed 20k. Bitcoin processor problems for over 18 months. Friends also been scammed