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phillyflyers

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wilt benefitted from run and gun era and being big and athletic in an era of big slow cow fed 6-8 white guy centers
Ridiculous.

Wilt dominated an era that was much more difficult to play in.

Today the defender isn't allowed to put a hand on the offensive player when trying to play defense.

Can you imagine Wilt in this era posting up with his back to the basket and you can't put your hand on him?

He might average 80.

Wilt was a world class athlete don't forget that. He still holds numerous track and field records.

Then he became a world class Polo player when he took that up.

An absolute freak of nature.
 

phillyflyers

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Furthermore, another thing that separates Wilt from everyone else on this list is his pure athleticism, which I already mentioned.

None of these guys on this list, other than Wilt, would or could excel at another sport besides basketball.

Wilt was great at everything he did.

He was superior by any metric.

Jordan left basketball to play baseball.

We all know how that turned out.
 

phillyflyers

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okay please educate us about wilt chamberlain and POLO
Wilt won the Big 8 Conference title three times in track and field.

He Broad jumped 22 feet and triple jumped over 50 feet.

He ran the 100 meters in under 11 seconds.

The 440 yard dash in 49 seconds and the 880 yard dash in 1:58.3

He threw the shot put 56 feet!

He high jumped 6'6".

He couldn't have a real Polo career because his horses couldn't handle him but when he played he was very good.

Just like everything else.
 

Archie

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wilt was decent at track. but those above #s have long been debunked.


Debunking Most Every Wilt Chamberlain Track & Field Myth

In addition to many other myths about the man, there seems to be an abundance of completely false information regarding Wilt Chamberlain's track and field career floating around on this sub. Hopefully we can reference this post when people keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again. Most of the myths come from a Sporting News article ([Source](https://web.archive.org/web/20071213024759/http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/wilt/article3.html)) written by Kansas University's Sports Information Director during Wilt's freshman year at Kansas. Here is the paragraph most often cited:

​

" Wilt is not a one-sport man, either. At Overbrook High School in Philly, he high jumped 6 feet, 6 inches, ran the 440 in 49.0 seconds and the 880 in 1:58.3, put the shot 53 feet, 4 inches, broad jumped 22 feet. Bill Easton, Jayhawks track boss, predicts Wilt will reach 7 feet in the high jump if he concentrates on it. "

​

Clearly the author simply asked Wilt what his best times/marks were and did no fact checking whatsoever as to the authenticity of those results. The only verifiable marks from Wilt Chamberlain's high school track and field career that can be found online come from the Philadelphia Public League Championships results as compiled by Ted Sillary ([Link](http://www.tedsilary.com/archive/PLtrackeventwinners.htm)). Someone on the Track and Field News message boards ([Link](https://trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/)) somehow happened to have a paper copy of the top 15 high school performers in every track and field event for 1955. Unfortunately, this thread was from many years ago and he never scanned in the results for everyone to see. We will have to take his word for it that Wilt's name was nowhere on the list.

​

Here is a rundown of every event listed in the Sporting News article. Keep in mind that these marks supposedly took place while Wilt was in high school (1955), so when I use the phrase, "in the country", I am limiting the results to high schoolers only.

​

**High Jump - 6'6"**

Wilt would have been ranked #5 in the country with this mark, but his name appears nowhere on the list of the top 15 in the country for that year (15th place was 6'4 5/8"). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year jumped 6'5.75", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). The best mark we have for Wilt in this event as a high schooler is 6'1", which won him the Philadelphia Public League Championship ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/PLtrackjumps.htm)).

**440 Yards - 49.0**

This mark would have put Wilt at #8 in the country, but his name does not appear anywhere on the list of the top 15 for that year (15th place was 49.2). The winner of the Philadelphia Public League Championship that year ran 51.4, and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/PLtracksprints.htm)). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year ran 49.1, and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). No verifiable results exist for Wilt Chamberlain in the 440 yard dash as a high schooler.

**Shot Put - 53'4"**

This mark would not have placed Wilt in the top 15 in the country, and obviously his name wasn't on the list. The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year threw 50'6.25", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). The best mark we have for Wilt in this event as a high schooler is 46'10.5", which won him the Philadelphia Public League Championship ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/archive/PLtrackPVshotput.htm)).

**880 Yards - 1:58.3**

The winner of the Philadelphia Public League Championship that year ran 2:01.3, and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/archive/PLtrackdistances.htm)). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year ran 1:58.1, and his name was obviously not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). No verifiable results exist for Wilt Chamberlain in the 880 yard run as a high schooler.

**Long Jump - 22'0"**

The winner of the Philadelphia Public League Championship that year jumped 21'0.25", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/PLtrackjumps.htm)). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year jumped 21'11.5", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). No verifiable results exist for Wilt Chamberlain in the long jump as a high schooler.

​

So what we know about Wilt's high school track and field career is that he won two Philadelphia Public League Championships in the high jump (with marks of 5'10" and 6'1") and one Philadelphia Public League Championship in the shot put (with a mark of 46'10.5"). Wilt Chamberlain never was highly ranked in the nation, never won a state title, and never set a school record at Overbrook High School (a school which has never had a state champion \[[Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)\]).

​

On to college! This one is simpler because there aren't as many myths floating around about his marks at Kansas. Here are the two you will here the most often though.

1. Wilt was undefeated in the shot put in college
2. Wilt won three consecutive Big Seven high jump titles

Of course, both of these are false. Most of the results from Wilt's college days come from a guy who has old Kansas Relays programs. Unfortunately he never uploaded them online. I will provide links for the rest. Here are the best marks I could come up with for Wilt's three years of collegiate competition.

**1956 (Freshman)**

High Jump - 6'4 7/8" (1st in Big Seven Freshmen meet)

Shot Put - 47'5.25" (3rd in Big Seven Freshmen meet)

Triple Jump - 46'2" (4th in Kansas Relays)

**1957 (Sophomore)**

High Jump - 6'5" (1st in Big Seven Outdoor Conference) ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide))

Triple Jump - 45'9" (3rd in Kansas Relays)

**1958 (Junior)**

High Jump - 6'6.75" (tied-1st in Big Seven Indoor Conference) ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide))

​

So Wilt tied for the win in one Big Seven indoor high jump competition and won one Big Seven outdoor high jump title ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide)). He was never an All-American in college in any track and field event ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide)) and definitely didn't go undefeated in the shot put in college ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide)).

​

tl;dr Wilt was nowhere near the track & field athlete he is given credit for on this website
 

phillyflyers

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wilt was decent at track. but those above #s have long been debunked.


Debunking Most Every Wilt Chamberlain Track & Field Myth

In addition to many other myths about the man, there seems to be an abundance of completely false information regarding Wilt Chamberlain's track and field career floating around on this sub. Hopefully we can reference this post when people keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again. Most of the myths come from a Sporting News article ([Source](https://web.archive.org/web/20071213024759/http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/wilt/article3.html)) written by Kansas University's Sports Information Director during Wilt's freshman year at Kansas. Here is the paragraph most often cited:

​

" Wilt is not a one-sport man, either. At Overbrook High School in Philly, he high jumped 6 feet, 6 inches, ran the 440 in 49.0 seconds and the 880 in 1:58.3, put the shot 53 feet, 4 inches, broad jumped 22 feet. Bill Easton, Jayhawks track boss, predicts Wilt will reach 7 feet in the high jump if he concentrates on it. "

​

Clearly the author simply asked Wilt what his best times/marks were and did no fact checking whatsoever as to the authenticity of those results. The only verifiable marks from Wilt Chamberlain's high school track and field career that can be found online come from the Philadelphia Public League Championships results as compiled by Ted Sillary ([Link](http://www.tedsilary.com/archive/PLtrackeventwinners.htm)). Someone on the Track and Field News message boards ([Link](https://trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/)) somehow happened to have a paper copy of the top 15 high school performers in every track and field event for 1955. Unfortunately, this thread was from many years ago and he never scanned in the results for everyone to see. We will have to take his word for it that Wilt's name was nowhere on the list.

​

Here is a rundown of every event listed in the Sporting News article. Keep in mind that these marks supposedly took place while Wilt was in high school (1955), so when I use the phrase, "in the country", I am limiting the results to high schoolers only.

​

**High Jump - 6'6"**

Wilt would have been ranked #5 in the country with this mark, but his name appears nowhere on the list of the top 15 in the country for that year (15th place was 6'4 5/8"). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year jumped 6'5.75", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). The best mark we have for Wilt in this event as a high schooler is 6'1", which won him the Philadelphia Public League Championship ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/PLtrackjumps.htm)).

**440 Yards - 49.0**

This mark would have put Wilt at #8 in the country, but his name does not appear anywhere on the list of the top 15 for that year (15th place was 49.2). The winner of the Philadelphia Public League Championship that year ran 51.4, and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/PLtracksprints.htm)). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year ran 49.1, and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). No verifiable results exist for Wilt Chamberlain in the 440 yard dash as a high schooler.

**Shot Put - 53'4"**

This mark would not have placed Wilt in the top 15 in the country, and obviously his name wasn't on the list. The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year threw 50'6.25", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). The best mark we have for Wilt in this event as a high schooler is 46'10.5", which won him the Philadelphia Public League Championship ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/archive/PLtrackPVshotput.htm)).

**880 Yards - 1:58.3**

The winner of the Philadelphia Public League Championship that year ran 2:01.3, and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/archive/PLtrackdistances.htm)). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year ran 1:58.1, and his name was obviously not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). No verifiable results exist for Wilt Chamberlain in the 880 yard run as a high schooler.

**Long Jump - 22'0"**

The winner of the Philadelphia Public League Championship that year jumped 21'0.25", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.tedsilary.com/PLtrackjumps.htm)). The winner of the Pennsylvania State Meet that year jumped 21'11.5", and his name was not Wilt Chamberlain ([Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)). No verifiable results exist for Wilt Chamberlain in the long jump as a high schooler.

​

So what we know about Wilt's high school track and field career is that he won two Philadelphia Public League Championships in the high jump (with marks of 5'10" and 6'1") and one Philadelphia Public League Championship in the shot put (with a mark of 46'10.5"). Wilt Chamberlain never was highly ranked in the nation, never won a state title, and never set a school record at Overbrook High School (a school which has never had a state champion \[[Source](http://www.rodfrisco.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PIAA-BOYS-TRACK-REX-ALL-TIME1.pdf)\]).

​

On to college! This one is simpler because there aren't as many myths floating around about his marks at Kansas. Here are the two you will here the most often though.

1. Wilt was undefeated in the shot put in college
2. Wilt won three consecutive Big Seven high jump titles

Of course, both of these are false. Most of the results from Wilt's college days come from a guy who has old Kansas Relays programs. Unfortunately he never uploaded them online. I will provide links for the rest. Here are the best marks I could come up with for Wilt's three years of collegiate competition.

**1956 (Freshman)**

High Jump - 6'4 7/8" (1st in Big Seven Freshmen meet)

Shot Put - 47'5.25" (3rd in Big Seven Freshmen meet)

Triple Jump - 46'2" (4th in Kansas Relays)

**1957 (Sophomore)**

High Jump - 6'5" (1st in Big Seven Outdoor Conference) ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide))

Triple Jump - 45'9" (3rd in Kansas Relays)

**1958 (Junior)**

High Jump - 6'6.75" (tied-1st in Big Seven Indoor Conference) ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide))

​

So Wilt tied for the win in one Big Seven indoor high jump competition and won one Big Seven outdoor high jump title ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide)). He was never an All-American in college in any track and field event ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide)) and definitely didn't go undefeated in the shot put in college ([Source](https://issuu.com/kuathleticscom/docs/2017_ku_trackfield_guide)).

​

tl;dr Wilt was nowhere near the track & field athlete he is given credit for on this website
This is bullshit.

I never said he went undefeated in anything.

It is absolute fact he was a superior multi sport athlete.

Because the author of your articles couldn't or wouldn't verify it himself doesn't mean it's not true.

It most certainly is.
 

phillyflyers

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Furthermore, Wilt owns 72 NBA records. 68 of which are owned solely by him.

These include:
Most points in a season (4,029)

Most minutes per game in a season (48.5)
—he played nearly every minute of every game, including overtimes.

Most 50-point games in a season (45)

Highest career rebounding average (22.9)


Most consecutive field goals made (35)

You seriously think there is someone better than him?
 
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