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Wagerallsports

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I'm not sure if some ppl live under a rock, don't have kids or grandchildren, or just the type that think "Oh well I won't be around so I don't care what is going to happen in the future"

For anyone to still defend Biden & co and everything going on, it has to be one of the above

I bet when one of the dangerous illegal immigrants slit one of your relatives throats or rape them, like is happening weekly now, you might have a different opinion
 

Wagerallsports

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i would love to see a debate between Biden and Trump
Biden can't debate a brick wall

And Kamala Harris is dumb as a box of rocks, to hear her talk it doesn't sound like she made it through middle school

California Gavin Newsom and Trump would have been good, although DeSantis already owned Newsom in their debate

And Newsome basically says he's not interested in running
 

KVB

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Biden can't debate a brick wall

And Kamala Harris is dumb as a box of rocks, to hear her talk it doesn't sound like she made it through middle school

California Gavin Newsom and Trump would have been good, although DeSantis already owned Newsom in their debate

And Newsome basically says he's not interested in running

We could very well end up with Newsome v DeSantis in the future and I think both candidates know it so they are fine with this election not being their time.

De Santis my not be in the national audience again though, he doesn't have much appeal outside of the that dedicated 25-30% of republicans, like Trump. But DeSantis might have less chance of appealing to more voters than Trump, it's tough to tell.

I feel like the republicans are blowing it this year, not seeing too much on our republican side that tells me they even want to win in November. Feels like the republicans are throwing the election, especially congressionally, where it really matters. A lot more alientating than uniting going in the republican propaganda machine. I hate to see that, it kind of pisses me off.
 

Wagerallsports

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wait til very late Wager you will get beeter odds imo
Yes maybe


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Donald Trump Sr. -110
Joe Biden +150
Gavin Newsom +1500
Michelle Obama +1500
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. +2500
Kamala Harris +2500
Gretchen Whitmer +8000
Hillary Clinton +12500
Elizabeth Warren +12500
Mark Cuban +15000
Nikki Haley +20000
Jamie Dimon +20000
Michael Bloomberg +25000
Tucker Carlson +30000
Amy Klobuchar +30000
Liz Cheney +30000
Oprah Winfrey +30000
Joe Manchin +50000
Pete Buttigieg +50000
 

KVB

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lol, Michelle Obama.

There is talk but no serious talk about her running. There never was. At least, again, not by anyone who is serious.
 

KVB

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wait til very late Wager you will get beeter odds imo

When it comes to risk/reward and time value of money when approaching the markets I think it's best to waiy regardless of who you evetnually bet on.

So much will happen between now and then. Trump could get a conviction, either guy could literally die of natural causes. There could be geopolitical drama, more than now.

A lot to happen still, and who knows which direction that will go.

There are better places to put your money for the next 6 months.
 

KVB

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I think ppl believe the Democratic party will get desperate soon and try to come up with a replacement

Obviously she would basically be running for her husband

You and I have the same chance of entering the race as she does.

None.

But both parties are already desperate. That's one of the reasons I suggest waiting to bet, the information is very fuzzy right now.

Trump hasn't even named a VP. That's how little info we have. Kamala scares everyone that she could take over by default one day...that's for sure. Nobody wants that.
 

Wagerallsports

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You and I have the same chance of entering the race as she does.

None.

But both parties are already desperate. That's one of the reasons I suggest waiting to bet, the information is very fuzzy right now.

Trump hasn't even named a VP. That's how little info we have. Kamala scares everyone that she could take over by default one day...that's for sure. Nobody wants that.
Good points
 

djefferis

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I'm not sure this makes any sense, lol.

Welcome to the world of O&G Exploration.

NOTHING they do ever makes sense. Short of airlines - I don’t know a more screwed up business. They both know 2 phases - boom or bankruptcy.

These companies are handing out bonus checks one week and pink slips the next.

Part of the flooding of the market was their own short sightedness last time in the SCOOP. They saw $80-120 oil - and can make money drilling for anything North of $40 - so they went hard - of course anyone with half a brain and a 8th grade science class under their belt knows when you drill for oil in North Texas and Oklahoma - your also going to hit natural gas. Guess what - you can’t just shove that gas back in the ground after you pump it out - so you’ve got to either store it - or sell it and too much of anything hitting the market kills prices.

In the Utica - they are working on storage caverns to help ease some of the oversupply- as well as finding a market for all the methane and waste gas locally building small scale power plants. That stuff is too corrosive to send long distance via pipeline a bit burn it locally and produce power is economical (to bad they couldn’t figure this out 35 years ago and convert all the aluminum plants and steel mills to mini arc furnaces - could have really saved some jobs).

The big move of course will be as we create more LNG plants and have ability to pipe this stuff over to Baltimore and down to Virginia/SC ports to send overseas. Just like Korea and China did with their steel - we can dump on Europe and other markets our low price gas and control the markets.

I was told anytime nat gas is above $2 - Gulfport can be profitable locally and the goal is to get that to 1.50. I don’t know - seems like a pretty tough target to meet - but they seem sure of themselves.
 

djefferis

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Oh yes - I’d also say look at how many players there were in the last “boom cycle” and how many are left.

You’re down to like 5-6 players left and the big boys in intergrated oil taking out the few left every few months.

There won’t be a bust cycle as these guys go broke this time as they will now have a trillion dollar company backing them. Standard Oil Trust will be back - I was actually surprised a few years ago to find the family owned some leases originally signed with Standard Oil in late 1800s/early 1900s.
 
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