SmartLiveGaming voided bet hours after it was settled

[Trevrizent]

It could well be that Betfair's German licence only covers their sportsbook and not their exchange. By the way, have you checked whether you can use Betdaq, as Ladbrokes, who own Betdaq, were also granted a German betting licence last year?

 

[Grassman20]

Unfortunately Betdaq does not allow German players, I have checked it.

 

[yourmum]

That's a shame grassman. What sites / software do you use for sure betting, I personally don't do it myself but do know of a few useful sites that may interest you, but you may well already know of them

 

[Grassman20]

I only use betonvalue.com which seems to be the best surebetting site I have found.

 

[yourmum]

There's a few others I found a few years ago, but the only one I can remember right now is bmbets.

I hope you're not paying for the full service its extremely overpriced. It's a shame you don't have access to any exchanges because otherwise you would be better off using a service like odds monkey. It's only £8 per month and has back and lay arbs and also 2/3 way dutching surebets. Most of the dutching surebets are 2% or less.

 

[Grassman20]

Thanky you for your answer.
That could be really helpful.
I wasnt aware of these sites.
odds monkey could maybe be of interest, because I do have access to smarkets and matchbook.
Its really sad they dont support pinnacle sports, because pinnacle plus all exchangers are the only option for surebetting for the long term.

 

[Grassman20]

I have also found surebetmonitor.com
But it seems surebets are not displayed fast enough.

 

[Grassman20]

I have just bought the betonvalue pro subscription for 150€ because I cant find another service which combines exchangers and pinnacle and is fast enough.
But even then the problem is that the surebets that do appear are so fast matched that you do have no chance of placing a bet.
That means that there must be other arbers that do use faster services or mechanism.
I would like to know how they make it.

I thought about making my own surebets by placing unmatched bets with odds that would allow to make a surebet. But it seems its a rare case where this bets get matched.

I will investigate this for a week or so. But I think surebetting is nothing for the long term.

 

[yourmum]

<p>I have just bought the betonvalue pro subscription for 150€ because I cant find another service which combines exchangers and pinnacle and is fast enough.<br />
But even then the problem is that the surebets that do appear are so fast matched that you do have no chance of placing a bet.<br />
That means that there must be other arbers that do use faster services or mechanism.<br />
I would like to know how they make it.</p>
<p>I thought about making my own surebets by placing unmatched bets with odds that would allow to make a surebet. But it seems its a rare case where this bets get matched.</p>
<p>I will investigate this for a week or so. But I think surebetting is nothing for the long term.</p>

What you stated with placing unmatched bets would be trading my friend. A surebet has to be available immediately or its not a surebet.

The dutching bets (or 2 way / 3 way surebets ) that oddsmonkey provide are only available with a premium subscription which is only £8 per month. The dutching surebets include pinnacle and sbo.

You will rarely find back lay surebets using pinnacle / sbo because of their odds margins and commission paid on the exchanges. It's worth testing and having a look as €150 per month for a surebetting service is ridiculous. You could end up losing loads of bookie accounts before you break even. You would need to be be betting over €10000 before you make profit.

There's a forum that may interest you - abusers.com its all about arbing or surebetting as you know it. There will be many people on there that you can connect with and that will be able to give you better advice / tell you about better sites. I've only really read about it, rather than do it myself as I see it as a quick smash and grab for some instant profit as opposed to a steady income via trading etc....

 

[Grassman20]

Until now it seems that smartlivegaming dont want to credit my winnings with correct odds even if they said so per email.
I need to think about submitting a complaint to BMR. Maybe they can help.
Has anyone experiences with that?

 

[yourmum]

<p>Until now it seems that smartlivegaming dont want to credit my winnings with correct odds even if they said so per email.<br />
I need to think about submitting a complaint to BMR. Maybe they can help.<br />
Has anyone experiences with that?</p>

submit a complaint here and also use sportsbookreview.com to submit a complaint as well. SBR are more active than newBMR, but submitting complaints with both wont hurt

 

[Grassman20]

I did submit a complaint here and also on sportsbookreview.com but there is nothing happen. It seems like SBR and BMR dont care.

 

[quincunx]

Apologies if the answer to this is buried somewhere in the thread,but have you checked that Smartgaming's rules say they settle bets at wrong odds at corrected odds,rather than voiding them ?
Also note the new sticky with the revised address for contacting NewBMR.