Short Pieces on gambling
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Good stuff Archie, please show some ILLINOIS respect for the ILLINI today. Be proud !
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the vice episodes on gambling are well done. i have seen clips. did not realize there was all of this not being shown. i am down to watch.
Where is he?
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DiggityDaggityDo
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He’s two posts above you.
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JJ, please cut @Archie some slack here, he gets bombarded by pm's and emails by me. He is responsible for me walking again. I am sure he is annoyed by all of my pm's and emails but the guy is a great guy and has helped me immensely.
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Here’s the cliff notes.
SKIP THIS POST IF YOU’RE GOING TO WATCH THE VIDEO.
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Core Story
The film traces how sports betting evolved from a casual, underground activity (friendly wagers while watching games) into a massive, legalized, tech-driven multibillion-dollar industry deeply embedded in sports culture, broadcasts, and apps — fundamentally changing fandom, especially for younger generations.
Key Timeline & Turning Points
• Historical resistance — Leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, etc.) long viewed betting as an existential threat to integrity (citing scandals like 1919 Black Sox, Pete Rose, Tim Donaghy referee case). 1992 PASPA law restricted it mostly to Nevada.
• Fantasy sports gateway → Daily Fantasy Sports (DraftKings, FanDuel) exploded in the 2010s, marketed as “skill” games, normalizing wagering and creating huge customer bases + lobbying power.
• 2018 Supreme Court decision (Murphy v. NCAA) struck down the federal ban → states rushed to legalize; leagues flipped from opposition to enthusiastic partnerships (e.g., Adam Silver/NBA led the pro-regulation charge for revenue + monitoring).
• Post-2018 explosion — Betting apps went mainstream with heavy advertising, in-game integrations, and innovations.
Major Innovations & Products Driving Growth
• Same-game parlays (combine many props from one game → huge long-shot payouts, massive dopamine hits).
• Live/in-game microbetting (bet on next play, next pitch outcome, pass completion, etc. — “sports betting on crack,” very “sticky”/addictive).
• Boosts, VIP programs targeting heavy losers, real-time algorithms.
Key Problems & Criticisms Highlighted
• Addiction & psychological toll — Constant access via phones normalizes wagering; targets young men; stories of rapid big losses, ruined finances, and emerging public health crisis.
• Integrity threats — Real-time micro-bets make small manipulations tempting → 2025 scandals (e.g., NBA players/coaches arrested in schemes, MLB pitchers indicted for allegedly rigging individual pitches via texts to gamblers in stands, mafia-linked cases).
• Who really profits? — Books (especially DFS converts like DraftKings/FanDuel) win long-term; leagues get huge sponsorship/TV money; states get tax revenue but underfund treatment.
• Youth impact — A generation “raised to bet” sees every play as a wagering opportunity; blurs sport enjoyment (rooting for stats/props over team wins).
Emerging Trends (Late Sections)
• Rise of prediction markets (e.g., PolyMarket, Kalshi, Novig) — peer-to-peer platforms legally operating in all 50 states (not classified as gambling), allowing bets on sports + elections, weather, etc.; some target 18-year-olds; seen as “fairer” but expanding gambling further.
• Sportsbooks eyeing casino expansion as the next phase (online slots/blackjack far more profitable/addictive than sports betting).
Tone & Closing Message
Investigative and cautionary — balances some enjoyment/camaraderie aspects with heavy concern about exploitation, lack of guardrails, and unsustainability. Ends asking if a major tipping point (huge scandal, spike in suicides, fan violence against players, or fixed championship) will arrive before meaningful regulation — compares current state to the “Titanic band still playing” while disaster looms. Suggests treating gambling more like alcohol (better boundaries, education, ad limits) rather than the current “wild west.”
Overall takeaway: Legalization delivered revenue and engagement but unleashed addictive tech, integrity risks, and societal costs that may not be reversible without serious intervention.
It’s a sobering watch, especially ironic given the gambling ads many viewers reported seeing during playback.
SKIP THIS POST IF YOU’RE GOING TO WATCH THE VIDEO.
.
.
.
Core Story
The film traces how sports betting evolved from a casual, underground activity (friendly wagers while watching games) into a massive, legalized, tech-driven multibillion-dollar industry deeply embedded in sports culture, broadcasts, and apps — fundamentally changing fandom, especially for younger generations.
Key Timeline & Turning Points
• Historical resistance — Leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, etc.) long viewed betting as an existential threat to integrity (citing scandals like 1919 Black Sox, Pete Rose, Tim Donaghy referee case). 1992 PASPA law restricted it mostly to Nevada.
• Fantasy sports gateway → Daily Fantasy Sports (DraftKings, FanDuel) exploded in the 2010s, marketed as “skill” games, normalizing wagering and creating huge customer bases + lobbying power.
• 2018 Supreme Court decision (Murphy v. NCAA) struck down the federal ban → states rushed to legalize; leagues flipped from opposition to enthusiastic partnerships (e.g., Adam Silver/NBA led the pro-regulation charge for revenue + monitoring).
• Post-2018 explosion — Betting apps went mainstream with heavy advertising, in-game integrations, and innovations.
Major Innovations & Products Driving Growth
• Same-game parlays (combine many props from one game → huge long-shot payouts, massive dopamine hits).
• Live/in-game microbetting (bet on next play, next pitch outcome, pass completion, etc. — “sports betting on crack,” very “sticky”/addictive).
• Boosts, VIP programs targeting heavy losers, real-time algorithms.
Key Problems & Criticisms Highlighted
• Addiction & psychological toll — Constant access via phones normalizes wagering; targets young men; stories of rapid big losses, ruined finances, and emerging public health crisis.
• Integrity threats — Real-time micro-bets make small manipulations tempting → 2025 scandals (e.g., NBA players/coaches arrested in schemes, MLB pitchers indicted for allegedly rigging individual pitches via texts to gamblers in stands, mafia-linked cases).
• Who really profits? — Books (especially DFS converts like DraftKings/FanDuel) win long-term; leagues get huge sponsorship/TV money; states get tax revenue but underfund treatment.
• Youth impact — A generation “raised to bet” sees every play as a wagering opportunity; blurs sport enjoyment (rooting for stats/props over team wins).
Emerging Trends (Late Sections)
• Rise of prediction markets (e.g., PolyMarket, Kalshi, Novig) — peer-to-peer platforms legally operating in all 50 states (not classified as gambling), allowing bets on sports + elections, weather, etc.; some target 18-year-olds; seen as “fairer” but expanding gambling further.
• Sportsbooks eyeing casino expansion as the next phase (online slots/blackjack far more profitable/addictive than sports betting).
Tone & Closing Message
Investigative and cautionary — balances some enjoyment/camaraderie aspects with heavy concern about exploitation, lack of guardrails, and unsustainability. Ends asking if a major tipping point (huge scandal, spike in suicides, fan violence against players, or fixed championship) will arrive before meaningful regulation — compares current state to the “Titanic band still playing” while disaster looms. Suggests treating gambling more like alcohol (better boundaries, education, ad limits) rather than the current “wild west.”
Overall takeaway: Legalization delivered revenue and engagement but unleashed addictive tech, integrity risks, and societal costs that may not be reversible without serious intervention.
It’s a sobering watch, especially ironic given the gambling ads many viewers reported seeing during playback.
Not sure how much in depth they went into this but I wrote a thing on this.
I hope they didn't steal it, lol.
I was dealing with the addictiveness of the phone compounded with the same for gambling. There will be some in the population that are simply doomed.
A whole new generation of them.
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I watched the first 25 minutes and I didn't see anything that anyone even half sharp doesn't already know.
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