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djefferis

djefferis

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I miss Lazerwager and the Pig, top notch customer service!

ThePig I recall well - part of Legendz - great shop and service.

Didn’t Lazerwager eventually stiff snd reappear as EZStreet which stiffed and reappeared as 1Vice which stiffed and reappeared as HRWager which stiffed and reappears as ??

Might be missing one in that chain of progression - but was pretty sure LazerWager was like the great granddaddy of that chain and people from one started the next and each skipped town with player funds. Some players never learn.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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ThePig I recall well - part of Legendz - great shop and service.

Didn’t Lazerwager eventually stiff snd reappear as EZStreet which stiffed and reappeared as 1Vice which stiffed and reappeared as HRWager which stiffed and reappears as ??

Might be missing one in that chain of progression - but was pretty sure LazerWager was like the great granddaddy of that chain and people from one started the next and each skipped town with player funds. Some players never learn.
Not sure but I had personalized service there with special bonuses they offered me anything I wanted. 30% cash with a 3x RO. Got it anytime I wanted for years.
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Not sure but I had personalized service there with special bonuses they offered me anything I wanted. 30% cash with a 3x RO. Got it anytime I wanted for years.

But did they pay and did they leave town owing you money ? That’s all that really matters.

I know I played there - and I know I got out before they owed me anything (at least my records tell me that when I just looked them up) - trying to remember who it was I dealt with there - but yes bonuses were great from memory and easy (or should I say EZ) to work with. Of course most people are welcoming when you’re giving THEM money.

Thinking about it - so damn many books that are not around anymore - probably 5 I can think of that left without completely screwing players over.
 

flyingillini

flyingillini

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But did they pay and did they leave town owing you money ? That’s all that really matters.

I know I played there - and I know I got out before they owed me anything (at least my records tell me that when I just looked them up) - trying to remember who it was I dealt with there - but yes bonuses were great from memory and easy (or should I say EZ) to work with. Of course most people are welcoming when you’re giving THEM money.

Thinking about it - so damn many books that are not around anymore - probably 5 I can think of that left without completely screwing players over.
I never got stiffed from them. I collected thousands from them. Never an issue. I used EZ street as well. I have never got stiffed by a book, hope it never happens either. I did play with Jon Cheers and WagerChiefShawn but was playing with them when they were still paying.
 

Wagerallsports

Wagerallsports

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ThePig I recall well - part of Legendz - great shop and service.

Didn’t Lazerwager eventually stiff snd reappear as EZStreet which stiffed and reappeared as 1Vice which stiffed and reappeared as HRWager which stiffed and reappears as ??

Might be missing one in that chain of progression - but was pretty sure LazerWager was like the great granddaddy of that chain and people from one started the next and each skipped town with player funds. Some players never learn.
Ezstreet and Topbet

What an adventure that was
 

btcfan

btcfan

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1. Bookmaker
2. Bet105 (see if they hold up)
3. BetOnline

We really should have a list of shops where we were limited. I have multiple, BookMaker is one, not limits across the board but bonuses and betpoints pulled. Bet105 was one before their rebranded. Hope their current model sticks. BetOnline, tougher shop for me to beat.
 

baus

baus

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ThePig I recall well - part of Legendz - great shop and service.

Didn’t Lazerwager eventually stiff snd reappear as EZStreet which stiffed and reappeared as 1Vice which stiffed and reappeared as HRWager which stiffed and reappears as ??

Might be missing one in that chain of progression - but was pretty sure LazerWager was like the great granddaddy of that chain and people from one started the next and each skipped town with player funds. Some players never learn.

I think you have that about right. Well done.

BAUS
 

djefferis

djefferis

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They’re finished. No one is getting paid unless he wins the lottery.

BAUS

He already won the lottery - the skip town with player funds lottery.

It’s simple - he had an offer on the table to step aside and just allow his clients to be made whole and to continue to receive a cut on future player losses and turned it down.

Why ? Guess he figured 25% and players being made whole was a hell of a lot less beneficial to HIS bottom line than shutting down and popping back up next July with a new site and contacting every player on his list with a great new offer while using a whole new name and story about his

Doesn’t take a genius to piece together this puzzle - any new shop opening likely has a cast of characters behind it with skeletons in the closet. How many shops closed that didn’t skip town with player funds or require a bail out of some sort of- aside from the 3 I listed ? 5Dimes I believe payed everyone - but likely because Uncle Sam required it as part of the plea deal - BetEd for example did no such thing when they were shut down.
 

Tanko

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He already won the lottery - the skip town with player funds lottery.

It’s simple - he had an offer on the table to step aside and just allow his clients to be made whole and to continue to receive a cut on future player losses and turned it down.

Why ? Guess he figured 25% and players being made whole was a hell of a lot less beneficial to HIS bottom line than shutting down and popping back up next July with a new site and contacting every player on his list with a great new offer while using a whole new name and story about his

Doesn’t take a genius to piece together this puzzle - any new shop opening likely has a cast of characters behind it with skeletons in the closet. How many shops closed that didn’t skip town with player funds or require a bail out of some sort of- aside from the 3 I listed ? 5Dimes I believe payed everyone - but likely because Uncle Sam required it as part of the plea deal - BetEd for example did no such thing when they were shut down.
Wow... I wonder how much he took from players?
 

djefferis

djefferis

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Was over 100k if I remember correctly - at least that was the balance that was owed when they left RDG hosting.

Let’s assume after they left that George wasn’t paying anyone - which I feel is a safe assumption. That was the posted story from RDG on what happened - they gave George an ultimatum - either simply assign them the accounts / they would handle all debts and keep George on as a “sales person” and continue to give him 25% of the profits generated AFTER they had recouped the bill due them and the covered player balances.

George of course didn’t want to do this - likely because there was nothing in it for him short term aside from clearing a debt.
 
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