Notre Dame declines bowl game appearance

[stormtrooper8]

Bowl games are meaningless

 

[Franz555]

I think the induction of a playoff format is the way to go. If a very " unbiased " group of individuals called a selection committee, could create a set of rules, it would go a long way.
I don't see how a 3 loss team like Alabama is included in any playoff format.
Every year we hear the same arguments for March Madness.
Notre Dame aren't the only school that backed out of Bowl games.....just the school in the spotlight.
Protesting against something you feel is injust, happens everyday and everywhere in America. Its not the 1st time that an SEC team seemed to skip over a deserving team. It just seems to happen more frequently

 

[Archie]

I think there is a set of rules franzer.

it's never going to be perfect. but in many ways that makes it more fun.

in the end, it's just a game

 

[jamesy2422]

i said this in another thread but if the conf champ game is going to count in the record of a team then alabama has to be penalized for not only losing but playing like shit. and i am an alabama fan saying this.

and as much as i like head to head as an appropriate measure, it is weird to adjust teams after neither played this week. why does miami's win matter now but not in previous weeks? and i am not a notre dame fan saying this either.

 

[Franz555]

I think there is a set of rules franzer.

it's never going to be perfect. but in many ways that makes it more fun.

in the end, it's just a game

Where 100's of millions of $$$$ are involved , and we still refer to it as " Kids just playing a game " ( And Universities and powerful men dictate and " regulate " )

Fool me once.... Fool me twice..... Just saying

 

[Brock Landers]

Because they were fucked royally by this disgrace called the college football playoff. They were 100% right

 

[Jrgum3]

I can't say I blame them they should be in the playoffs and not Alabama so not playing in a meaningless bowl game is something that I can't disagree with since they got screwed by the committee.

 

[flyingillini]

Rudy Rudy Rudy Rudy Rudy Rudy Rudy

I actually get teary eyed every time I watch that movie.

 

[LT Profits]

I am not commenting on Notre Dame's decision not to play in Bowl, but I could see argument either way regarding Playoff. Committee argument is teams had almost identical resumes and Miami beat Notre Dame head-to-head, and I guess that is valid. BUT Notre Dame was clearly the better team the second half of the year and would be favored on neutral field if they met again. In fact, ND finished 10-0 after starting 0-2. So committee is weighing entire season equally, which included Miami win on opening week, and not giving added weight to how teams finished. Right or wrong, I am not sure.

 

[LT Profits]

I can't say I blame them they should be in the playoffs and not Alabama so not playing in a meaningless bowl game is something that I can't disagree with since they got screwed by the committee.

Alabama was safely in because of schedule and win at Georgia during 1-loss regular season, came down to ND or Miami.

 

[DiggityDaggityDo]

 

[Franz555]

I am not commenting on Notre Dame's decision not to play in Bowl, but I could see argument either way regarding Playoff. Committee argument is teams had almost identical resumes and Miami beat Notre Dame head-to-head, and I guess that is valid. BUT Notre Dame was clearly the better team the second half of the year and would be favored on neutral field if they met again. In fact, ND finished 10-0 after starting 0-2. So committee is weighing entire season equally, which included Miami win on opening week, and not giving added weight to how teams finished. Right or wrong, I am not sure.

If it boiled down to the SEC Final between Georgia and Alabama , why did they overlook the result ? If the loss to Georgia wasnt going to factor in to the committee's decision , why play the game ? How does a 31 - 17 loss to Florida St ( 5 and 7 this season ) not matter if ND losing to Miami ( IN MIAMI ) does ?

Sorry , but an SEC team skipping over a better team from another conference , seems to happen a lot. if ALL games on a schedule were truly taken into account , Florida St whipping Bama should matter more then a very close loss at Miami imo.

Bottom line.... ND were screwed over. I would also tell the NCAA to stick the lower tier bowl game that would put $$ in their corrupt pockets.

 

[LT Profits]

If it boiled down to the SEC Final between Georgia and Alabama , why did they overlook the result ? If the loss to Georgia wasnt going to factor in to the committee's decision , why play the game ? How does a 31 - 17 loss to Florida St ( 5 and 7 this season ) not matter if ND losing to Miami ( IN MIAMI ) does ?

Sorry , but an SEC team skipping over a better team from another conference , seems to happen a lot. if ALL games on a schedule were truly taken into account , Florida St whipping Bama should matter more then a very close loss at Miami imo.

Bottom line.... ND were screwed over. I would also tell the NCAA to stick the lower tier bowl game that would put $$ in their corrupt pockets.

Miami/ND matters more because overall resumes of those teams were so close. Alabama faced much tougher schedule than either of those two schools and won AT Georgia, that more than offsets FSU loss. We are also comparing a 1-loss team (regular season) with two 2-loss teams.

EDIT: I should add that "much tougher schedule" means more good-to-great wins than probably Miami and ND combined. And in this case, SEC did NOT bypass a better team, Alabama would be clearly favored over ND on neutral field.

 

[Franz555]

Miami/ND matters more because overall resumes of those teams were so close. Alabama faced much tough schedule than either of those two schools and won AT Georgia, that more than offsets FSU loss. We are also comparing a 1-loss team (regular season) with two 2-loss teams.

Alabama had 3 losses. Notre Dame won 10 straight and clobbered most teams on route. The only way you give Alabama the nod with 3 losses is giving further weight to the SEC schedule. THATS the point im making. Why is the SEC given more credibility , that losses in that conference are better then other conferences. Why even bother to pretend your taking ALL games into account. If you lose by 14 points to a team that finished 5 and 7 , why do you discard that result ? N.Dame lost by a total of 4 points against 2 Playoff teams.

 

[LT Profits]

Alabama had 3 losses. Notre Dame won 10 straight and clobbered most teams on route. The only way you give Alabama the nod with 3 losses is giving further weight to the SEC schedule. THATS the point im making. Why is the SEC given more credibility , that losses in that conference are better then other conferences. Why even bother to pretend your taking ALL games into account. If you lose by 14 points to a team that finished 5 and 7 , why do you discard that result ? N.Dame lost by a total of 4 points against Playoff teams.

Oops I forgot Alabama had second regular season loss. Does not change anything else I said though. SEC gets benefit of the doubt because conference IS better, especially in this case comparing to ACC and Indie. Yes, ND had two close losses to playoff teams, but their quality of wins was not as good as Bama's. So I don't think Tide even belongs in this conversation, came down to Miami/ND.

 

[Franz555]

Oops I forgot Alabama had second regular season loss. Does not change anything else I said though. SEC gets benefit of the doubt because conference IS better, especially in this case comparing to ACC and Indie. Yes, ND had two close losses to playoff teams, but their quality of wins was not as good as Bama's. So I don't think Tide even belongs in this conversation, came down to Miami/ND.

Why are you continually dismissing a 31 - 17 loss to Florida St ? You mention their " Body of Work " within the SEC , and ignore the out of conference beating to a 5 - 7 team. Notre Dame lost by FOUR total points to 2 playoff teams. If you want to just look at wins , and ignore the loss , whats the point of a selection committee ? For the record , i agree with the BMR poll that had Bama left out by a landslide. It was just Corruption as usual by the NCAA

 

[BMR Genie]

Also Baylor?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1997806030428705105

 

[BMR Genie]

Looks like a lot of them..

College Football Bowl Game Refusals: Which Teams Have Turned Down Playing in a Bowl Game?

Several schools have refused college football bowl game this season due to multiple factors, including roaster change and offseason activities.

www.profootballnetwork.com

 

[LT Profits]

Why are you continually dismissing a 31 - 17 loss to Florida St ? You mention their " Body of Work " within the SEC , and ignore the out of conference beating to a 5 - 7 team. Notre Dame lost by FOUR total points to 2 playoff teams. If you want to just look at wins , and ignore the loss , whats the point of a selection committee ? For the record , i agree with the BMR poll that had Bama left out by a landslide. It was just Corruption as usual by the NCAA

Because they had many more good wins than one bad loss. And even ignoring everything I said, Alabama would be favored over both MIA and ND. ND would be favored of Miami too, so if bookmakers set the field, Miami would be out.

 

[Franz555]

Last year's Championship game

Ohio St vs Notre Dame

Neither is an SEC team. Guess we'll just have to take your word for it that the SEC deserves higher recognition.
If losing to a 5 - 7 team doesn't matter , how about the ND SEC win ?

56 - 13 @ Arkansas ( SEC )