More Random Bickering

[Wagerallsports]

I’ve never had a ghost. I created kingvit at rx because both of us could not figure out how to use the vitterd name to log in. Whatever BAS did wasn’t able to be figured out. That’s not a ghost.

Hache, you have like 5 handles here right now. What are you talking about? SBR guys have 6/7 handles as mods. Rx the same thing.

The problem is these ghosts are winning contests and money from regular posters or at least they have several more chances. That’s just flat out fraud.

I know Enikk had a ghost. It was Donnie D. You have over/under, Florida fever, Duffy, refuge. The problem is, this is not right and it’s going on at all these sites. It’s unfair. You guys have been doing this for decades. Roy bacon and others are millionaires off this shit. And yes, im pissed about it. I have every right to be. He stole all sbr points and took off.

You can use a ghost for tout plays, I get that but why do people have 4 or 5?

You are more clueless than i thought and just as with your politics beliefs you are following someone's word blindly

I don't care what screenshots you have

I can show you different ones much more updated

Enikk has far more than one ghost and it they were obvious to some posters here

They didn't end with the Wahlberg brothers

This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black

The only difference is as I've already explained to you id we had to have ghosts to post service plays so tout sites couldn't complain that the actual company is posting their plays, and of course had to make it look good

And no employees are allowed to win contests so you are wrong about that too

Like I said..... Your choice of loyalties is just sad considering how long we've known each other

But like others, you've gone too far now

 

[vitterd]

You are more clueless than i thought and just as with your politics beliefs you are following someone's word blindly

I don't care what screenshots you have

I can show you different ones much more updated

Enikk has far more than one ghost and it they were obvious to some posters here

They didn't end with the Wahlberg brothers

This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black

The only difference is we had to have ghosts to post service plays so tout sites couldn't complain that the actual company is posting their plays

And no employees are allowed to win contests so you are wrong about that too

Like I said..... Your choice of loyalties is just sad considering how long we've known each other

But like others, you've gone too far now

You can call names or whatever you want. I don’t follow anyone but myself. If Enikk had 20 ghosts he’s guilty as well.

 

[vitterd]

You are more clueless than i thought and just as with your politics beliefs you are following someone's word blindly

I don't care what screenshots you have

I can show you different ones much more updated

Enikk has far more than one ghost and it they were obvious to some posters here

They didn't end with the Wahlberg brothers

This is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black

The only difference is as I've already explained to you id we had to have ghosts to post service plays so tout sites couldn't complain that the actual company is posting their plays, and of course had to make it look good

And no employees are allowed to win contests so you are wrong about that too

Like I said..... Your choice of loyalties is just sad considering how long we've known each other

But like others, you've gone too far now

You’re missing the entire point. Don’t even start with politics. You’re a zombie with that.

I don’t need to follow anyone or be told anything. I can tell you ghosts and who’s being paid just by the posts. Where is my loyalty? Been posting where you’ve been a mod for 20 years. So much content with so many huge threads. I should have a huge check waiting for me.

 

[Wagerallsports]

You’re missing the entire point. Don’t even start with politics. You’re a zombie with that.

I don’t need to follow anyone or be told anything. I can tell you ghosts and who’s being paid just by the posts. Where is my loyalty? Been posting where you’ve been a mod for 20 years. So much content with so many huge threads. I should have a huge check waiting for me.

Apparently you did because as soon as Enikk left you stopped showing your face around here

Maybe you should start getting the whole story from someone you know instead of jumping to conclusions

 

[vitterd]

Apparently you did because as soon as Enikk left you stopped showing your face around here

Maybe you should start getting the whole story from someone you know instead of jumping to conclusions

Well I’m waiting? What’s the whole story? You have my email. You have my pm but I’ve heard nothing. I told you I understand the service play ghosts but you still don’t tell me why the other 5 ghosts. Let’s hear it.

I have my own thing going on that’s one reason I left and have for a while. My other reason for leaving and when I left is the same time you guys brought Tuesday back. I’ve sent many messages, it’s him or me. Even though he’s been perma banned, you guys keep bringing him back. So as long as he posts, I’m not feeding into the troll and making mods more money. There….that’s how you tell the whole story.

 

[Wagerallsports]

I've already explained in multiple posts

Not wasting anymore time with you & your spiteful group who it's now now obvious why everyone at every forum had had problems with

You guys come up with something better like actual bad mods who have stolen and stiffed others over the years or other horrible things

 

[vitterd]

I've already explained in multiple posts

Not wasting anymore time with you & your spiteful group who it's now now obvious why everyone at every forum had had problems with

Lol. My group. It’s me. So you got no answers. I gave you a chance for the entire story and you got nothing. You don’t even answer. That even makes it more obvious. You should be more grateful for what I’ve done and done for nothing. Every mod, Roy, Lou, families of mods, should get together and write me a massive check right now.

I don’t have problems with everyone. But many people have problems now. And it’s not me. The game is over. You are on the titanic

 

[Wagerallsports]

Lol. My group. It’s me. So you got no answers. I gave you a chance for the entire story and you got nothing. You don’t even answer. That even makes it more obvious. You should be more grateful for what I’ve done and done for nothing. Every mod, Roy, Lou, families of mods, should get together and write me a massive check right now.

I don’t have problems with everyone. But many people have problems now. And it’s not me. The game is over. You are on the titanic

"Everyone" = your group

For the third and last time, when we first came here to BMR, we came up with the idea to create ghost accounts solely for the purpose of posting service plays because as you know, we have worked at the other forums and you have no idea how many complaints we get from tout sites complaining that "your employees are reposting our material."
So if the service is are being posted from 'regular' posters, we simply tell them freedom of speech from our users.
Yes we use them here and there to make it look good so it can never be questioned by those annoying tout service sites with their consistent threats.
The story completes itself with enikk choosing to leave for his own reasons (his. Business) and then having sort of agenda against the site and revealed those ghosts.
There is MUCH more to the story about someone else who is not here and all of this, but I will not stoop through other people's level

The only time you post here vitt is if it's to argue with someone or stir up sh!t

So since we are a sinking ship, you might want to get in your lifeboat and go home

 

[vitterd]

"Everyone" = your group

For the third and last time, when we first came here to BMR, we came up with the idea to create ghost accounts solely for the purpose of posting service plays because as you know, we have worked at the other forums and you have no idea how many complaints we get from tout sites complaining that "your employees are reposting our material."
So if the service is are being posted from 'regular' posters, we simply tell them freedom of speech from our users.
Yes we use them here and there to make it look good so it can never be questioned by those annoying tout service sites with their consistent threats.
The story completes itself with enikk choosing to leave for his own reasons (his. Business) and then having sort of agenda against the site and revealed those ghosts.
There is MUCH more to the story about someone else who is not here and all of this, but I will not stoop through other people's level

The only time you post here vitt is if it's to argue with someone or stir up sh!t

So since we are a sinking ship, you might want to get in your lifeboat and go home

It’s the same non answer. Why 5 ghosts? It doesn’t take 5 ghosts for service plays. Why do you have 5 handles in the in game thread talking to Seahawk Harry? Im giving you the chance to tell this much more to the story and you don’t. You keep repeating this service plays things.

My videos and stirring up shit is alot better than all mod ghost content combined. If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t keep bringing Tuesday back. Enikk revealing what he did was important. If you haven’t looked at other sites, people are talking about it. They have the right to be pissed.

I was off the boat before you hit iceberg. Look around hache, I love my boy jds and he’s working hard for that 500 but if he stops posting….it’s gonna only be you left talking to yourself and you’re not Leonardo DiCaprio.

 

[vitterd]

I know you don’t play in the 25k contest but maybe you should look. All ghosts. Top brass ghosts played in that contest. Now Enikk and Le didn’t that I see. Bubbles has won money. Now can’t we assume they play in sbr and rx contests as well?

Say what you want about Enikk and him and I have butted heads, he tried to make this an honest forum. I have updated screenshots of all ghosts. Every single one of them.

im sure this will ban me because the truth gets people mad but it’s time to stop this

 

[Wagerallsports]

Say what you want about Enikk and him and I have butted heads, he tried to make this an honest forum. I have updated screenshots of all ghosts. Every single one of them.

First of all you are wrong again, you don't have a screenshot of all ghosts. Meaning enikks

Secondly I haven't said a word about eniik in here.
I actually tried convincing him to stay.
But he had his own reasons to leave

Lastly, the threats about the ghosts are over.
Post the screenshots, most have already seem them, and Ive already explained it all.

So you have nothing left

 

[vitterd]

Hache, you have the updated list, let’s compare.

Bobby. 1 ghost since March

Le…. NEVER had a ghost

Wager…. 5 ghosts Heavily active

Genie.. 1 service play. 2 active every day ghost

Enikk… 5 ghost total. Since admin role he only had 19 total ghost posts. That was only filling in for a contest he purposely lost because a poster backed out of last capper standing

and boss man 3 known actives.

let’s see if we are right here.

 

[vitterd]

Hache, we can end this even quicker. Do a pod with me, you and Enikk and we can discuss all this. Sounds fair.

 

[Wagerallsports]

Makes no sense what you're asking

Thought you guys were concerned about 'safety'

Besides I've already explained it all

Everyone else it's been explained to understands and gets it

It's only your little little group

I have stories that would blow everyone's mind

From messages and emails and stories from the shrink himself, to five different moderators at forums over the years who have stiffed people and stolen, to many many other stories

I could literally write a book about all the terrible things I've witnessed and have all the facts to prove

THOSE are the kinds of things that ppl.would consider bad

Not ghost accounts that had to be used to avoid legal threats from services (yes several were used to post service plays to make it look realistic as a group)

There's really nothing more to say

If you ever hear about one of us here at BMR, therx, SBR, or any other Sports Forum where employees have done serious harm to someone, then let us know

 

[Tuesday]

Hache, we can end this even quicker. Do a pod with me, you and Enikk and we can discuss all this. Sounds fair.

At the end of all that...all wanted was someone to do another video date with...pathetic desperate for attention last word terd...edikk and birds of a feather:

 

[BMR Genie]

Just sad to see that the people who tried to build up this forum are the same people who are trying to break it down.

Right now, I can only wish all the best for them.

 

[stormtrooper8]

Just sad to see that the people who tried to build up this forum are the same people who are trying to break it down.

Right now, I can only wish all the best for them.

I’m speaking here just as a sports betting/general sports nerd that goes to places like this mainly to just shoot the shit and share insights with others who have common interest

I highly doubt anyone is trying to break this place down. I don’t think anyone cares enough

Frankly these websites need to be more receptive to feedback. Vitty might be associated with drama but honestly the vast majority of it is not his fault and he is posting a lot of good points in this

There are guys who post at these places just to get under his skin. BMR and other places should not tolerate posters who do stuff like this.

I think there’s a misconception among the leaders here that drama is a good thing or that is boosts business in some way. That’s just simply not true in this industry, and you all should seriously consider that. It’s not just this site obviously, but it does exist here unfortunately.

I know as someone who isn’t affiliated with these sites and just comes here out of my love for sports betting, the drama is a HUGE turn off.

Also wanted to say it’s sad to see Enik go because IMO he was arguably the best contributor to this place. Knowing him, I highly doubt he walked away unless the reason was legit. So I really hope you guys have not wronged him in any way

 

[stormtrooper8]

Now if there is some series of forum warfare that’s going on, I’m 100% clueless and have absolutely no interest in hearing about it/getting involved.

Also please don’t take my post as some attack at you Genie or any other leaders. It’s not personal, I obviously like you Genie Just trying to give some objective insight

 

[Tuesday]

I’m speaking here just as a sports betting/general sports nerd that goes to places like this mainly to just shoot the shit and share insights with others who have common interest

I highly doubt anyone is trying to break this place down. I don’t think anyone cares enough

Frankly these websites need to be more receptive to feedback. Vitty might be associated with drama but honestly the vast majority of it is not his fault and he is posting a lot of good points in this

There are guys who post at these places just to get under his skin. BMR and other places should not tolerate posters who do stuff like this.

I think there’s a misconception among the leaders here that drama is a good thing or that is boosts business in some way. That’s just simply not true in this industry, and you all should seriously consider that. It’s not just this site obviously, but it does exist here unfortunately.

I know as someone who isn’t affiliated with these sites and just comes here out of my love for sports betting, the drama is a HUGE turn off.

Also wanted to say it’s sad to see Enik go because IMO he was arguably the best contributor to this place. Knowing him, I highly doubt he walked away unless the reason was legit. So I really hope you guys have not wronged him in any way

Now if there is some series of forum warfare that’s going on, I’m 100% clueless and have absolutely no interest in hearing about it/getting involved.

Also please don’t take my post as some attack at you Genie or any other leaders. It’s not personal, I obviously like you Genie Just trying to give some objective insight

Another p⁵4lifer hypocrite avocucdo33 you been taking shit across street for years...

 

[Wagerallsports]

You cannot be serious right now

You just contradicted yourself in the same post

First you say that nobody is trying to bring harm to this place and to some of us personally, then defend vitterd and his buds for all the exaggerations and even lies they are spreading around

How about I share the nasty messages and emails I've been sent from these ppl you are defending?!?

Ppl I have stuck up for, helped, and encouraged, (even you), now turned evil

And you interact with them

So YES, you are involved, and not "clueless"

It's amazes me that Tuesday had you guys figured out all this time and the rest of us was blind

And Tuesday is the one they tried convincing everyone was a threat to people's safety, and it's actually your friends!