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djefferis

djefferis

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Absolutely - bettors have to be in on the action constantly.

Generation of $25-50 bettors who don’t think the juice matters…so what if I’m betting into 40 cent sides - it’s “just $25 - no comprehension that doing that 40 times a week is literally giving their money away even though they can pick winners.

Same people who think you can win playing slot machines and scratchers long term.
 

BigJay

BigJay

Joined
Oct 28, 2021
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Absolutely - bettors have to be in on the action constantly.

Generation of $25-50 bettors who don’t think the juice matters…so what if I’m betting into 40 cent sides - it’s “just $25 - no comprehension that doing that 40 times a week is literally giving their money away even though they can pick winners.

Same people who think you can win playing slot machines and scratchers long term.
I’ve seen 60-70 cent vigorish live before. -135 each way. Insane
 

Wagerallsports

Wagerallsports

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Mar 6, 2018
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About 70% of my bets are Live

Much more value to be found

Also I rarely pay juice the wagers usually range from +100 to +125.
Most are in basketball where the total is constantly fluctuating so there’s no point in paying juice for a number that you can get at plus money just before or after.
I suppose Hence the reason Hard Rock cut limits and restricted my account to no perks or promos

@JDS knows and can attest to all of this
 

BigJay

BigJay

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About 70% of my bets are Live

Much more value to be found

Also I rarely pay juice the wagers usually range from +100 to +125.
Most are in basketball where the total is constantly fluctuating so there’s no point in paying juice for a number that you can get at plus money just before or after. I suppose Hence the reason Hard Rock cut limits and restricted my account to no perks or promos

@JDS knows and can attest to all of this
This Buffalo-Ravens game is the perfect example. Could already have guaranteed a nice profit. Both teams have been +$
 

MinnesotaFats

MinnesotaFats

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This Buffalo-Ravens game is the perfect example. Could already have guaranteed a nice profit. Both teams have been +$
This is why books get murdered

Too lienent w live lines & teaser bull shit

Ridiculous

Just go back to days of a newspaper with one simple line. This modern generation fukking up everything from beer to pussy; from gambling to government.
 

JDS

JDS

Joined
Dec 11, 2021
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About 70% of my bets are Live

Much more value to be found

Also I rarely pay juice the wagers usually range from +100 to +125.
Most are in basketball where the total is constantly fluctuating so there’s no point in paying juice for a number that you can get at plus money just before or after. I suppose Hence the reason Hard Rock cut limits and restricted my account to no perks or promos

@JDS knows and can attest to all of this
That’s why you don’t post a lot of them, which makes sense. Maybe I need to try the live market at some point this year.
 

KVB

KVB

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This Buffalo-Ravens game is the perfect example. Could already have guaranteed a nice profit. Both teams have been +$

One must be careful here. Far better to start that with the dog pregame, and at better than a pickem.

Even if you're finding both teams as dogs, the value is gone and one should really only aim to make +EV bets, even when buying both sides of a game.

Many know I do this often, monitoring the margin and the EV, and it most often starts with being to identify which games will play out as needed for the trade as well as rooting out the non-candidates.

Experience is valuable.
 
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