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stormtrooper8

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I had zero skin in the game. I was on Washington spread and moneyline.

You can say the calls didn't affect the game, of course they did.

You can say the calls didn't affect the result, that can always be debated, because of course they affected the game. But it can always be debated.

All you can do is post your evidence, more evidence than a bad call that everyone agrees is a bad call. We know those happened. @stormtrooper8 with a good post early showing broader stats.

Here's a more specific stat that by no means ends the debate, but is worth noting.

The Houston Texans are the first team in NFL history to out gain their opponent by 100+ yards, have zero turnovers, and still lose a post season game. Houston outgained KC 336-212 in yards.

The record for teams with that stat is now 49-1.

Houston also won time of possession, number of first downs (both passing and rushing), had 15 more plays, had a better 3rd down efficiency, even if they did have more 3rd downs.

The total drives were equal at 9 each.

Houston won in passing yards, rushing yards, but trailed KC in yards per pass, 5.2 to 5.8.

Two stats worth noting that KC won that might add context to the makeup of the game and the results...

Sacks: Houston with 8 sacks for 58 yards lost while KC had 3 sacks for 15 yards lost.
Penalties: Houston was 8 for 82 yards. KC was 4 for 29 yards.

Wait, what was that about penalties and context?

So there you go, a tough game analyize if you lost with the Houston spread. Especially when you consider the missed kicks on Houston's behalf.

I make no conclusions here, just some of the facts.

Let's treat each other with kindness, folks, the world is shitty enough as it is.

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It’s a good example of why looking at a box score is not a way to analyze a game

The Chiefs and Texans were basically even in yards per play when the Chiefs went up by 11 to ice the game. Some chunk prevent mode plays by Texans and Chiefs literally taking a -20 yard play for a safety can skew things.

When the Chiefs needed to make plays, they did it. The Texans routinely made mistakes — taking sacks, missing kicks, and committing some dumb penalties as well. Great teams are great often they don’t beat themselves

The bad calls were bad. But it’s wrong to lie and say that unnecessary roughness call “prolonged a drive.” The penalty was on 1st down. The Chiefs probably still March down the field. Plus people forget Chiefs had a large play wiped out by a bad holding penalty on that same drive, which actually was more consequential yardage wise.

My take is that Houston probably deserved to cover, because they did seem to play good in stretches on the line of scrimmage and I thought Stroud played a great game despite not tremendous stats

But those calls didn’t decide the final outcome of the game.

Believe me, I’ve said in below 0 wind chill and watched the Chiefs get extra downs, favorable calls against my Bengals in an AFC Championship setting. I do not like the Chiefs.

But we can’t also act like they are winning rings because of refs. That’s bogus
 
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They didn’t get the calls right

I think in the moment the aesthetic of the unnecessary roughness might have caused the flag. It looked bad at game speed

They should review penalties

Yes and no.

The first one that saved a drive had no contact or maybe the rules analyst didn't see that angle, or maybe it was slight.

When Mahomes slid, there was contact to the head, even if at the "hairline" and a review shows it.

That's where it isn't that they should review penalties (like on the field), which I think they should do; but, rather it may be time to review what is a penalty in the offseason and fix it's enforceability.
 
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