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Joel Embiid The Most Overrated Athlete Ever?

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djefferis

djefferis

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Again - I won’t say LeBron is not great - only in the overall list of best of the best - he’s at best in the 6-10 list.

Make a Mt Rushmore of NBA greatest and use winning as well as their total impact on the league and separation above and beyond their peers in stats - LeBron fades down the list vs. just saying all time stat leaders. Longevity and the desire of guys to try to build super teams has made him great.

The super teams of the 80s (Lakers and Celtics) came together by chance and superior GM/coaches - the super teams of LeBron came together because of LeBrons hype and media attention.

He can do a lot and playing a long time and staying healthy helped quite a bit. But if your going to tell me he is better than Chamberlin/Jordan/Russell in their era - your wrong. He may be the modern Oscar Robertson if not for free agency and ability of guys to basically pick where they want to play.

Dudes who thinks he’s 1st 2nd and 3rd on the list of all time greats based on the team he played for . Having a 20 year career and a high standard is nothing to overlook - but it doesn’t make you 3x as great as guys who only played 10-12 years.
 

phillyflyers

phillyflyers

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This fsggot spook got hit in the face and now needs testing.

Out another month.

These fukkin athletes are all pussies. One giant pussy hole the size of Manhattan.

Fukkin piece of shit.

Easily now the most hated person in Philly.
 

stormtrooper8

stormtrooper8

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Again - I won’t say LeBron is not great - only in the overall list of best of the best - he’s at best in the 6-10 list.

Make a Mt Rushmore of NBA greatest and use winning as well as their total impact on the league and separation above and beyond their peers in stats - LeBron fades down the list vs. just saying all time stat leaders. Longevity and the desire of guys to try to build super teams has made him great.

The super teams of the 80s (Lakers and Celtics) came together by chance and superior GM/coaches - the super teams of LeBron came together because of LeBrons hype and media attention.

He can do a lot and playing a long time and staying healthy helped quite a bit. But if your going to tell me he is better than Chamberlin/Jordan/Russell in their era - your wrong. He may be the modern Oscar Robertson if not for free agency and ability of guys to basically pick where they want to play.

Dudes who thinks he’s 1st 2nd and 3rd on the list of all time greats based on the team he played for . Having a 20 year career and a high standard is nothing to overlook - but it doesn’t make you 3x as great as guys who only played 10-12 years.
Normally like your posts

But this just a laughable take, sorry

Cavs won 44 fewer games when he left. And he has no impact on winning?

No rational argument to keep LeBron out of the top 2.

It’s MJ and LeBron, then everyone else
 

stormtrooper8

stormtrooper8

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Best passer in the NBA for a solid 10 year stretch

Has scored 25+ ppg in 20 straight seasons. As a “pass-first player”. No one even close to that

And don’t give me the “current NBA” crap. Scoring was low for many years in LeBron’s career.

He dragged a bottom feeder franchise into relevancy

That 2018 Cavs team that he dragged to the Finals would’ve won 17 games without him. It was an awful team that did nothing well — bad defense, bad shooting. Dude was just putting up 40/10/10 during that run. Fucking incredible feat.

Top tier defender for several years as well
 
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