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KVB

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Somebody taught Trump that they should be handling this on a case by case basis with each country, too bad he didn’t learn that a week ago.

Trump starting to learn that targeting tariffs and individual situations in eact sector, and country, need individual attention.

Novartis seeks an investment in the US, that's they say, and it's not because of a tariff war, it's because of rumors of a terror war as other pharmas seek investment too.

The admin may be learning from their past errors. I think they got a pretty good lesson on reality over this past week.

Under Trump, including the first term, we've seen a lot of investment commitments, in a few spots in the country. Few, if any, actually came to fruition.

Hopefully they can bring everyone from pharma to expand in the US, and hopefully they can avoid any of these coimmitments gettting to scam level.

We're dealing in art here, as it's The Art of the Deal!

It's also promising that the company released a statement, and not the White House. It adds credibility to, at least the talk of a commitment.

Leggoooo!

:cheeleade
 

KVB

KVB

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Just looked at my portfolio, I didn't want to check but not as bad as I thought. Down about 28K since the start of March. Honeslty was thinking it was closer to 50K. Feels like a win.

Strap in, I don't think we see a V shaped recovery here and I think we still trend negatively for a while. Hopefully we don't see a dead cat bounce.

You should be fine, just be patient. Be thankful for the polished economy and roaring stock market duringthe last administration, I think the current government will have to do a bit more to completely unravel what they inherited.

The stock market was so good during the last admin that you knew, and most strongly felt, that there would be some correction. Think of the next few months as that correction.

Let's see how bad the US consumer is going to get raped, that will determine a lot about the economy, even as we try to shift to more manufacturing.
 

KVB

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I'm not so sure we'll see the market react to promised of investment, similar to the lack of reaction to the House passing a budget "framework."

Pass a budget, break ground on new or expanding manufacturing, do something real and substantial, then I think we see a market response.

I think the trend is negative, it's downward, and I think that's where each day start for the near term, and it will require real economic news or realy policy in action to even begin to reverse that trend.

A lot of talk, then taking back that talk, then having the press rep say one thing while some in the cabinet say the opposite and the President doesn't know what they're saying, that, from an investing perspective, it's time to ignore that talk, and only bite into something that's real.
 

phillyflyers

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Trump starting to learn that targeting tariffs and individual situations in eact sector, and country, need individual attention.

Novartis seeks an investment in the US, that's they say, and it's not because of a tariff war, it's because of rumors of a terror war as other pharmas seek investment too.

The admin may be learning from their past errors. I think they got a pretty good lesson on reality over this past week.

Under Trump, including the first term, we've seen a lot of investment commitments, in a few spots in the country. Few, if any, actually came to fruition.

Hopefully they can bring everyone from pharma to expand in the US, and hopefully they can avoid any of these coimmitments gettting to scam level.

We're dealing in art here, as it's The Art of the Deal!

It's also promising that the company released a statement, and not the White House. It adds credibility to, at least the talk of a commitment.

Leggoooo!

:cheeleade
One thing I don't think you've considered, pal.

Trump is surrounded by the best experts in trade available in this country, yes?

Bessent is extremely intelligent, yes?

Don't you think it's a high probability that this was planned ever since he won the election back in November?

The point being he/they clearly know what they're doing and there really isn't any reason for panic.

Right or wrong?

I'm all ears.
 

Brock Landers

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One thing I don't think you've considered, pal.

Trump is surrounded by the best experts in trade available in this country, yes?

Bessent is extremely intelligent, yes?

Don't you think it's a high probability that this was planned ever since he won the election back in November?

The point being he/they clearly know what they're doing and there really isn't any reason for panic.

Right or wrong?

I'm all ears.
Do you actively try to be ignorant?
 

phillyflyers

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Do you actively try to be ignorant?
Says the Biden/Harris voter.

Really Brock, you don't seem like you hate this country.

So it's puzzling, to say the least, trying to figure out why you hate Trump and his policies so much.

You think if Harris got elected things would be better?

We would have lost the country.

We'd have a governed like they now do in France and Germany who would put people in jail for praying outside an abortion clinic.

Like what happened in England.

This is what you wanted?
 

Brock Landers

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Says the Biden/Harris voter.

Really Brock, you don't seem like you hate this country.

So it's puzzling, to say the least, trying to figure out why you hate Trump and his policies so much.

You think if Harris got elected things would be better?

We would have lost the country.

We'd have a governed like they now do in France and Germany who would put people in jail for praying outside an abortion clinic.

Like what happened in England.

This is what you wanted?
You're entirely full of shit
 

KVB

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These markets are great if you’re into quick trading

Looking into contracts around volatility ETFs and maybe ETNs, and VIX options.
Looking into contracts around volatility ETFs and maybe ETNs, and VIX options

Puts and put spreads are possible bet I don't think a very good investment here on the VIX derivatives.

Might be better to enter some options on things like QQQ and SPY. More than short term, but not quite long term expirations. Maybe medium term contracts that exploit the volatility of those ETFs/indices.
 

stormtrooper8

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Puts and put spreads are possible bet I don't think a very good investment here on the VIX derivatives.

Might be better to enter some options on things like QQQ and SPY. More than short term, but not quite long term expirations. Maybe medium term contracts that exploit the volatility of those ETFs/indices.
You’re just making up words with random letters. You need to go back to Chyyna you POS
 
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dollar is falling quickly and UST yields are rocketing up. Bond markets are showing fuckery with talk of China starting to sell treasuries and Canada's Carney having worked a behind the scenes bond sell off scenario looking like the US has weak cards and we are trying to bluff some players with AA and KK showing
 
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KVB

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Asia Dow index down -2.50% in the first 15 minutes of trading.

I don't see that popping back up before the trading day conitnues.

US market futures down, but not by much. Could be some easing of the downward pressure, really hard to tell.
 

KVB

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China starting to sell treasuries

Oh shit.

Is it time to register as Panicans? I heard the party is growing with some big money donors starting to jump on board. There's some real momentum with the Springfiled City council now majority Panicans and the Oak Ridge County Board of Supervisors is now led by a Panican.

Grass roots movement is growing.
 

KVB

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You’re just making up words with random letters. You need to go back to Chyyna you POS

Huge PPI numbers coming out tomorrow and less than two hours later we'll get consumer sentiment and year-ahead inflation expectations.

By 1 pm eastern time we'll have the Baker Hughes Rig Count as well.

Get out your popcorn.

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