Is it legal to hand over your accounts to professional bettors?

[borodaser21]

Recently, an acquaintance who has been betting for about 15 years wrote to me and said that he needed old Everygame accounts and a few others for betting. I had an account that I registered a year ago and made a couple of deposits. He promised me 40% of the net profit. He said he would make all deposits in cryptocurrency and use only his own money. So I wasn't risking anything. But he said they might request verification.



A week later, he told me that they had requested verification and several photos.



I logged into my account and saw a balance of $5,000 (I immediately checked whether he had made deposits in cryptocurrency, as he promised) and found that there were several deposits in Bitcoin totaling $800 and nothing more.



I passed verification and we split the money.



Today he requested several more betting sites.



I want to continue because I need the money. It doesn't look like match fixing because there are many decent leagues, such as Spain's La Liga.



I want to ask for your opinion on whether it is legal to transfer your accounts to someone else. I've heard that many people play from the accounts of relatives and friends. Thank you for your attention.

 

[JDS]

I smell a scam brewing, I could be wrong though. Last year there were several new accounts trying to buy off bookmaker accounts from members here so this idea is pretty similar to what you just explained.

 

[Headsterx]

Ofc not… it is just a violation of common sense.

 

[Tanko]

Books don't allow this. It's against their T&Cs..... Google "Beard accounts in sportsbetting".
It can be considered criminal fraud but I'm not sure how offshore books would pursue any charges. Domestic books, not sure what they'd do.

If you (or your friend) get busted, any money in the acct will be seized. I'm sure he knows this since he's using your account likely to get around any limits/ban they've placed on him for winning or using other "beards".

They will also ban you long-term from booking there. That may not be a big deal to you but it'll happen.

 

[Tanko]

Probably not a great idea to be posting about this on a forum and listing the book.
The have reps who actually do read some of this stuff.

 

[djefferis]

First - is it “legal” - depends on your jurisdiction, but likely yes.

Is it banned by a book and will it result in you being blacklisted and encountering tons of issues if you ever try to play offshore yourself and are lucky enough to win. ABSOLUTELY.

Players want these accounts to circumvent restrictions other limits on their account. Any number of reasons they could be doing this including bonus abuse, bypassing limits per game and pounding soft lines as well as running chargebacks on cards.

If you never plan on playing offshore again - I mean what do you have to lose aside from your online reputation. I don’t see anyone showing up at your doorstep looking to chat about what you did and why it’s not permitted.

To me though - way too much downside and no upside. Best case - your friend makes another payment before getting caught and loses all their money earned and you can never play offshore again. Worst case scenario - friend charges back or wins and never pays you again and your getting endless collection efforts from someone else’s debts.

Oh and of course if you share your info with the “friend” to help him verify your identity - odds are they are going to sign you up for a few legal books too without your knowledge and best base it’s just a chargeback nightmare. Collections are a lot less easier to respond to with not mine than an unpaid 1099-G is in the USA and our IRS. Have that friend who wins several thousand and skips out on taxes could leave you facing loss of refunds for along time and a hefty tax bill owed.

 

[jjgold]

It will never end well do not give to any scammer

Pro bettors=scammers

 

[JDS]

It will never end well do not give to any scammer

Pro bettors=scammers

How the f*** are you gonna trust some stranger over the Internet to pay you a percentage of potential winning bets ? This guy is in on the scam. They take over accounts and use them until they’re banned, that’s what’s probably going on here.

 

[BobbyFK]

I wouldn't hand over my account to anyone not to mention the books will quickly boot you / limit you once they realize you're a sharp

 

[djefferis]

OP’s “acquaintance”:

 

[jamesy2422]

OP’s “acquaintance”:

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hey that's my friend tommy. good dude. i sent him $1000 so he can send me the one million i won in the nigerian lottery i never even entered!

 

[jamesy2422]

Recently, an acquaintance who has been betting for about 15 years wrote to me and said that he needed old Everygame accounts and a few others for betting. I had an account that I registered a year ago and made a couple of deposits. He promised me 40% of the net profit. He said he would make all deposits in cryptocurrency and use only his own money. So I wasn't risking anything. But he said they might request verification.



A week later, he told me that they had requested verification and several photos.



I logged into my account and saw a balance of $5,000 (I immediately checked whether he had made deposits in cryptocurrency, as he promised) and found that there were several deposits in Bitcoin totaling $800 and nothing more.



I passed verification and we split the money.



Today he requested several more betting sites.



I want to continue because I need the money. It doesn't look like match fixing because there are many decent leagues, such as Spain's La Liga.



I want to ask for your opinion on whether it is legal to transfer your accounts to someone else. I've heard that many people play from the accounts of relatives and friends. Thank you for your attention.

you gave your account and ID to an "aquaintance"? make sure to tell him your first pet's name and make of first car.

 

[BigJay]

Recently, an acquaintance who has been betting for about 15 years wrote to me and said that he needed old Everygame accounts and a few others for betting. I had an account that I registered a year ago and made a couple of deposits. He promised me 40% of the net profit. He said he would make all deposits in cryptocurrency and use only his own money. So I wasn't risking anything. But he said they might request verification.



A week later, he told me that they had requested verification and several photos.



I logged into my account and saw a balance of $5,000 (I immediately checked whether he had made deposits in cryptocurrency, as he promised) and found that there were several deposits in Bitcoin totaling $800 and nothing more.



I passed verification and we split the money.



Today he requested several more betting sites.



I want to continue because I need the money. It doesn't look like match fixing because there are many decent leagues, such as Spain's La Liga.



I want to ask for your opinion on whether it is legal to transfer your accounts to someone else. I've heard that many people play from the accounts of relatives and friends. Thank you for your attention.

Was your friend’s name Brock??

If so be afraid. Be very afraid.

 

[borodaser21]

First - is it “legal” - depends on your jurisdiction, but likely yes.

Is it banned by a book and will it result in you being blacklisted and encountering tons of issues if you ever try to play offshore yourself and are lucky enough to win. ABSOLUTELY.

Players want these accounts to circumvent restrictions other limits on their account. Any number of reasons they could be doing this including bonus abuse, bypassing limits per game and pounding soft lines as well as running chargebacks on cards.

If you never plan on playing offshore again - I mean what do you have to lose aside from your online reputation. I don’t see anyone showing up at your doorstep looking to chat about what you did and why it’s not permitted.

To me though - way too much downside and no upside. Best case - your friend makes another payment before getting caught and loses all their money earned and you can never play offshore again. Worst case scenario - friend charges back or wins and never pays you again and your getting endless collection efforts from someone else’s debts.

Oh and of course if you share your info with the “friend” to help him verify your identity - odds are they are going to sign you up for a few legal books too without your knowledge and best base it’s just a chargeback nightmare. Collections are a lot less easier to respond to with not mine than an unpaid 1099-G is in the USA and our IRS. Have that friend who wins several thousand and skips out on taxes could leave you facing loss of refunds for along time and a hefty tax bill owed.

I didn't send him any documents and I'm not going to do so.

He made the deposit himself using Bitcoin.

And I've already received $1,600 (40% of the profit).

I had to go through verification again, and now my soccer limits are $5. For that money, I'm really ready to never play at this bookmaker again.
My BAS account was restricted a year ago for a few regular bets, and I should have kept it and given it to my friend.


I just wanted to find out about possible legal issues. Of course, I will make sure that he replenishes everything with cryptocurrency, without using other people's cards.
I also know him in real life, as we went to the same school.

 

[turbobets]

Gamblers do this all the time. It violates the T&C's of most sportsbooks so all small risk of losing funds if they suspect you are sharing your account. I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted criminally for doing this.

 

[turbobets]

So your not going to send him docs so he can get his money out even after paying you?

 

[borodaser21]

So your not going to send him docs so he can get his money out even after paying you?

He didn't ask for my documents, but he did ask me to verify my account in advance and to re-verify it if necessary. I can also access my account at any time. We know each other personally, so he trusts me to a certain extent.

 

[BigJay]

I wouldn't hand over my account to anyone not to mention the books will quickly boot you / limit you once they realize you're a sharp

Bobby will you Western Union me some dough??

 

[BobbyFK]

Bobby will you Western Union me some dough??

How much are we talking here

 

[jamesy2422]

i am assuming your friend is a sharp bettor and/or affiliated with a known syndicate/pro circle. the downside is you will probably get banned eventually.