That was how I started betting. Was going to drive out to Wendover to make my first bet with my buddy Jeremy, I had jsut turned 21 and wanted to get down. Anyway this douche he used to sell to (Jeremy sold that cheap ass swag like nobodies business) was over and wouldn't stfu and I was like "Hey bro we gotta leave man so we can bet these games before they tip off" This douche bag customer was like "You guys want to bet? My brother is a bookie" If you knew the guy I am refering to there was NO WAY he had a bookie for a brother. I called BS, he was like "No let me see your phone I will call him" shows what kind of guy right? "let me see your phone" Anyway long story short we wnd up driving out to Stansbury Park out in BFE guy had a massive pond in his backyard and dude was a legit bookie. Had that guy never moved to Cali I would have never wagered offshore or evr signe d up for any forum.