Giants saying bye bye to Shedeur Sanders??

[BigJay]

This year is not the year to have the first pick. Zero franchise Quarterbacks.

You never know who will turn out to be a franchise QB

Very unpredictable position

Redraft this season Nix probably go second after Jayden

Nix was 6th QB taken and he certainly looks like a franchise quarterback

 

[BigJay]

Also situation players go to is key too obviously

ie Jets past few times they took a qb early. Horrible franchise

 

[seaborneq]

You never know who will turn out to be a franchise QB

Very unpredictable position

Redraft this season Nix probably go second after Jayden

Nix was 6th QB taken and he certainly looks like a franchise quarterback

Remember when Kenny Pickett was the first Quarterback taken. 20+ teams passed on him as a franchise quarterback and the Steelers got rid of him within a few starts. Every year doesn’t produce a franchise quarterback even though quarterbacks are drafted every year. Having the number one pick and drafting a quarterback doesn’t mean you get a franchise quarterback. Sanders may be a serviceable starter but a serviceable starter can be any pick in any round. Personally, Sanders is too slow to be a franchise quarterback. If he can’t avoid the rush in the Big 12 he definitely won’t avoid the rush in the NFL. He doesn’t move nearly as well as Caleb Williams and he is about to break the sack record.

 

[BigJay]

Remember when Kenny Pickett was the first Quarterback taken. 20+ teams passed on him as a franchise quarterback and the Steelers got rid of him within a few starts. Every year doesn’t produce a franchise quarterback even though quarterbacks are drafted every year. Having the number one pick and drafting a quarterback doesn’t mean you get a franchise quarterback. Sanders may be s serviceable starter but a serviceable starter can be any pick in any round. Personally, Sanders is too slow to be a franchise quarterback. If he can’t avoid the rush in the Big 12 he definitely won’t avoid the rush in the NFL. He doesn’t move nearly as well as Caleb Williams and he is about to break the sack record.

That Kenny Pickett year was horrible year for QB.

Steelers made a bad mistake taking him Round 1.

Next QB taken was Ridder and then Malik Willis, both in Round 3!

Best QB from that 2022 draft so far was Mr. irrelevant Purdy

Steelers could have traded way back. Gotten a lot of picks. And taken Pickett much later in draft.

 

[djefferis]

Ultimately - it’s not the opportunity to select a certain player that’s most valuable - it’s the ability to trade that draft capital away.

Difference between say pick 4 and 12 is huge. You may well get your player 8 picks later if you have someone whom your talent evaluators love and is not on everyone’s radar - but the price someone will pay to move up - especially if there’s a QB on the board they want is huge.

Could easily pick up a 3rd rounder and a future 1st dropping back 8 spots and that’s a huge haul in this league with cap considerations. Being able to control a player 5 years and cost effectively keep them for 3+ years before being forced into extensions helps build franchises - QBs are by far the most costly position so franchises will pay through the nose for the chance at one - even if it doesn’t work out.

 

[BigJay]

Ultimately - it’s not the opportunity to select a certain player that’s most valuable - it’s the ability to trade that draft capital away.

Difference between say pick 4 and 12 is huge. You may well get your player 8 picks later if you have someone whom your talent evaluators love and is not on everyone’s radar - but the price someone will pay to move up - especially if there’s a QB on the board they want is huge.

Could easily pick up a 3rd rounder and a future 1st dropping back 8 spots and that’s a huge haul in this league with cap considerations. Being able to control a player 5 years and cost effectively keep them for 3+ years before being forced into extensions helps build franchises - QBs are by far the most costly position so franchises will pay through the nose for the chance at one - even if it doesn’t work out.

Yes especially to get a young QB that’s reasonably affordable the first few years of his rookie contract before he cashes in if he’s the stud the squad things he is

 

[seaborneq]

Ultimately - it’s not the opportunity to select a certain player that’s most valuable - it’s the ability to trade that draft capital away.

Difference between say pick 4 and 12 is huge. You may well get your player 8 picks later if you have someone whom your talent evaluators love and is not on everyone’s radar - but the price someone will pay to move up - especially if there’s a QB on the board they want is huge.

Could easily pick up a 3rd rounder and a future 1st dropping back 8 spots and that’s a huge haul in this league with cap considerations. Being able to control a player 5 years and cost effectively keep them for 3+ years before being forced into extensions helps build franchises - QBs are by far the most costly position so franchises will pay through the nose for the chance at one - even if it doesn’t work out.

When there are no franchise changing players that someone else wants to give up draft capital for it devalues the top pick(s). This is not the year to try to get a couple of 1st or second round picks for any player in the top spot. There is no one in this draft that can make Tennessee or NYG relevant. There are bad years to have the number one pick.

 

[djefferis]

Agree there are “better” years to have a high pick.

But at the same time - if your GM of a team picking top 10 - you likely know it’s a “one and done” proposition 50% of the time for you. You either connect on a pick or it’s the next guys problem.

Does trading a ton of picks for a spot upgrade make sense generally - no. But when it’s not YOUR franchise you’re setting back 3 years - it’s an easy choice to make. Make the trade and it works out - you look like a genius. Make the trade and it blows up - you get the same unemployment compensation you would have gotten taking the guy available at your current pick.

Don’t need to have a sure fire HOF in the draft - just a sucker desperate enough to roll the dice on someone being good enough to help save their job. And the 2 QBs at top of the draft are that - they have flashed potential to make people foolishly hope they can save their jobs - just like
Caleb Williams did vs taking someone like Harrison Jr and keeping Fields.