Free Breeder’s Cup Past Performances and Preview Thread

[Reload]

Wow wasn’t expecting this much fun in a thread about free past performances

 

[BigJay]

Any angles like this @str or @rdalert447 ??

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[rdalert447]

Ochoa running anyone in BC @rdalert447 ???

10 of Ochoa’s horses don’t add up to what these BC horses are worth.

 

[rdalert447]

Any angles like this @str or @rdalert447 ??

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I’m a sucker for Graham Motion horses during Breeders Cup. Know he has a few entered. Haven’t seen their odds yet.

Besides that, I will be betting a Kelsey Danner entrant as well as a D. Whitworth Beckman entrant. Two up and comers. Want to get in on them before the masses figure out how good they are.

But I think I’ve lost about 60 bets in a row the last two months……so tread accordingly.

 

[BigJay]

I’m a sucker for Graham Motion horses during Breeders Cup. Know he has a few entered. Haven’t seen their odds yet.

Besides that, I will be betting a Kelsey Danner entrant as well as a D. Whitworth Beckman entrant. Two up and comers. Want to get in on them before the masses figure out how good they are.

But I think I’ve lost about 60 bets in a row the last two months……so tread accordingly.

Let me know the horses you’re on

May throw a few bucks down if I get a chance. Or at least I’ll follow them

We have a lot of real life stuff planned next couple of days so I may not be able to get anything down even if I want to

 

[rdalert447]

One more thing I try to do during the Breeders Cup is fade the over bet Euros on turf. Leading up to the event, all the experts talk up these Euros like they can’t be beat. The masses follow along and bet them into oblivion.

If one of the ignored American trainers, or even an ignored Euro wins, you should get paid if you bet it correctly.

Of course, the chalk Euros could sweep. But you gotta take stances somewhere.

 

[BigJay]

One more thing I try to do during the Breeders Cup is fade the over bet Euros on turf. Leading up to the event, all the experts talk up these Euros like they can’t be beat. The masses follow along and bet them into oblivion.

If one of the ignored American trainers, or even an ignored Euro wins, you should get paid if you bet it correctly.

Of course, the chalk Euros could sweep. But you gotta take stances somewhere.

I remember when I was really into it in the 90s and early to mid 2000s the Euros would dominate turf

 

[jjgold]

racing in serious trouble lots of changes might be coming and bettors finished

 

[BigJay]

racing in serious trouble lots of changes might be coming and bettors finished

They’ve been saying this about horse racing for 30 years

Still seems to do okay

Will never be a top-three sport like it was first half of last century again obviously

 

[str]

I remember when I was really into it in the 90s and early to mid 2000s the Euros would dominate turf

The thing to watch is that first of all, yes, the Euros can dominate on the grass. Typically, they are better. But …What to watch for is when the Breeders Cup races are in Ky. , the temps are typically in the 50’s which is perfect Euro weather. Also, grass stops growing right about now and the turf retains more moisture with those lower temps and less direct sun. So typically a big advantage for the Euros on turf in Ky. Or east coast.
But west coast, the temps can adversely affect the Euro horses who are not used to that heat and a dryer surface and that swings the advantage to the US and Canadian horses who are more adapt to it. It can be a big deal. Need to watch the surface, temperature and keep an eye on the Euro horses in the paddock to see if they are washed out. That’s a real problem some years for those European horses.
A real thing to watch for.

 

[str]

racing in serious trouble lots of changes might be coming and bettors finished

You need some new material JJ. I heard that in the late 70’s.

 

[Reload]

You need some new material JJ. I heard that in the late 70’s.

We need “third shift” JJ back

 

[str]

The thing to watch is that first of all, yes, the Euros can dominate on the grass. Typically, they are better. But …What to watch for is when the Breeders Cup races are in Ky. , the temps are typically in the 50’s which is perfect Euro weather. Also, grass stops growing right about now and the turf retains more moisture with those lower temps and less direct sun. So typically a big advantage for the Euros on turf in Ky. Or east coast.
But west coast, the temps can adversely affect the Euro horses who are not used to that heat and a dryer surface and that swings the advantage to the US and Canadian horses who are more adapt to it. It can be a big deal. Need to watch the surface, temperature and keep an eye on the Euro horses in the paddock to see if they are washed out. That’s a real problem some years for those European horses.
A real thing to watch for.

Looks like this will not be a year to worry about the heat. A high of 60 and lows in the 40's should be fine for the Euros. BTW, the F and M turf going a mile and a half has been won by the Euros 9 of the last 10 years . Doubt you want to pay against that stat.
GL.

 

[jjgold]

We’re probably gonna be forced to play it just to have action in daytime. I’m going to be telephone numbers today no looking at forms wasting time just hoping to catch it.

 

[jamesy2422]

Biggest Horse Racing Weekend of the Year. I miss when my Dad would talk about it. I used to be annoyed when he would only focus on that and now I would kill to hear that again from him.

 

[drunkenhorseplayer]

I'm looking at #6 Intricate Spirit (12/1) in the Juvenile Turf Sprint and #1 Intrepido (8/1) in the Juvenile; anything close to their ML prices and I'm on them.

 

[BigJay]

@Reload already made a thread all the big-time horse guys have been posting in for a couple of days

 

[BigJay]

Great thread here filled with great info.

Good luck to all who are playing the BC!