Do you still have your BetPoints™ on bookmaker.eu?

[martinhop]

So I've done well on player props: baseball, hockey, and basketball. I've broken even on big markets, but my ROI on props is 30% plus over a few hundred bets in the last two months. Because I bet small, I'm only up a few grand. I would be up 15k if I actually maxed those player props (normally listed at $250 max but many are $500+)

If you played on Bookmaker and managed to win for a decent period of time, and maybe win 10k or more... what's a good way to keep this run going, without worrying about getting limited? Should I avoid converting my Betpoints (I have several hundred $ worth now) to stay under the radar? Is there a chance my account gets reviewed, limited *and* I lose Betpoints - and hundreds of dollars in unrealized cashback - all in one moment?

Thanks for any relevant replies. PM welcome

 

[Wagerallsports]

I play at the sister book Justbet

I agree with your concern about setting off a red flag by cashing in your points

Yes other players are losing and cash them in as well but it’s just not worth the risk bringing any attention to yourself during this streak

 

[jamesy2422]

i still have mine as well. building them up. i like their loyalty system.

the only thing i say is if you are winning like you say they know who you are already regardless of bet points.

 

[Tanko]

Just letting the betpoints pile grow here.

I'm wondering if we should cash them in at some point just in case they decide, "Betpoints are no bueno anymore". Would they warn us?

 

[KingKolzig]

Never heard of guys scared to use book perks

 

[mrmcnasty]

I’ve redeemed probably thousands of $ in bet points on both JustBet and bookmaker. They seem to be pretty lenient in my experience

 

[JDS]

So I've done well on player props: baseball, hockey, and basketball. I've broken even on big markets, but my ROI on props is 30% plus over a few hundred bets in the last two months. Because I bet small, I'm only up a few grand. I would be up 15k if I actually maxed those player props (normally listed at $250 max but many are $500+)

If you played on Bookmaker and managed to win for a decent period of time, and maybe win 10k or more... what's a good way to keep this run going, without worrying about getting limited? Should I avoid converting my Betpoints (I have several hundred $ worth now) to stay under the radar? Is there a chance my account gets reviewed, limited *and* I lose Betpoints - and hundreds of dollars in unrealized cashback - all in one moment?

Thanks for any relevant replies. PM welcome

I’ve been a loyal customer for several years, and about 2-3 years ago, I was consistently successful, achieving a win rate of nearly 60% over approximately 300 bets on “plus money bets”. (@Tanko could verify). At that time, my account’s betpoints and freeplay bonuses were removed, which significantly impacted my experience.

Over the past 12 months, my betting has resulted in a loss of approximately -50 units, making this a challenging period for me. Recently, I negotiated with their team to reinstate my betpoints and freeplay bonuses, and they agreed to do so, even though I have their money regarding my bottom line.

 

[martinhop]

I play at the sister book Justbet

I agree with your concern about setting off a red flag by cashing in your points

Yes other players are losing and cash them in as well but it’s just not worth the risk bringing any attention to yourself during this streak

This is what I think

 

[martinhop]

i still have mine as well. building them up. i like their loyalty system.

the only thing i say is if you are winning like you say they know who you are already regardless of bet points.

They have no idea who I am, because I am a nobody in the gambling sphere. This season, I've decided I've had it with gambling and figured 2025 is my last 'amateur' year. Then I put in a ton of time and I'm online, DOING BASEBALL STUFF, 40 hours a week. I've partnered with 'a quant' if you will and I'm 'the gambler' in our betting partnership. There's a lot of moving parts, and I love it. I've won and lost 8k early in the year, and I'm at it again. I'm not going to be denied (and if I lost it again, I am determined to stop even looking at lines and sports for 2-3 years, focusing on family/work etc).

For now I'm a semi-pro, you could say. But yes, a nobody.

Now...I understand, if this streak continues, they'll stop me eventually.

What I don't understand, is whether they would first:
a) limit max amount I can bet on props
or
b) remove my betpoints - INCLUDING my accumulated betpoints - effectively reducing my ROI but also, kind of robbing me?

Option B shouldn't even be legal and it's definitely not fair. Has Bookmaker.eu EVER done that to a player?

I'm just posting to get responses from experienced bettors who won 4-5 figures, and got their betpoints disabled: did you get a chance to cash them in, or did you lose BOTH the ability to accumulate betpoints in the future *and* the already built-up balance of betpoints?

 

[martinhop]

Just letting the betpoints pile grow here.

I'm wondering if we should cash them in at some point just in case they decide, "Betpoints are no bueno anymore". Would they warn us?

I would say that an established book like this isn't EVER going to remove betpoints for all clients, unless they are shutting down for good (the apocalypse scenario).

Now, removing bonuses/perks from dangerous players, the kind of player I aspire to be, is a different story and won't be really frowned upon. I can see them doing it, it wouldn't shock me.

 

[martinhop]

Never heard of guys scared to use book perks

Never heard of guys scared to be limited? Maybe you have access to 5 bookmaker.eus and 5 bovadas, but I don't!

 

[martinhop]

I’ve redeemed probably thousands of $ in bet points on both JustBet and bookmaker. They seem to be pretty lenient in my experience

This is the kind of response I was hoping to get.

May I ask if you started there a long time ago, pre-COVID?

 

[martinhop]

I’ve been a loyal customer for several years, and about 2-3 years ago, I was consistently successful, achieving a win rate of nearly 60% over approximately 300 bets on “plus money bets”. (@Tanko could verify). At that time, my account’s betpoints and freeplay bonuses were removed, which significantly impacted my experience.

Over the past 12 months, my betting has resulted in a loss of approximately -50 units, making this a challenging period for me. Recently, I negotiated with their team to reinstate my betpoints and freeplay bonuses, and they agreed to do so, even though I have their money regarding my bottom line.

2-3 years ago... 300 bets at 60%... wasn't that your famous NCAAB streak, with an Open Parlay that hit for 80k? I remember it!

 

[JDS]

2-3 years ago... 300 bets at 60%... wasn't that your famous NCAAB streak, with an Open Parlay that hit for 80k? I remember it!

Yes that was during that timeframe good memory.

 

[martinhop]

Yes that was during that timeframe good memory.

Hard to forget that. These days - unless you're fresh and can spend 10 hours/day doing a sport daily AND get lucky - you're lucky to hit 55% for a week or a month. The best of the best hit 52-53% year in, year out. 60% is just Carlos Alcaraz level of crazy

 

[JDS]

Hard to forget that. These days - unless you're fresh and can spend 10 hours/day doing a sport daily AND get lucky - you're lucky to hit 55% for a week or a month. The best of the best hit 52-53% year in, year out. 60% is just Carlos Alcaraz level of crazy

It all evens out in the end, I'm 52-53% with my documented best bets. JDS 238-218-0 +25.72 Units.

 

[crusherrr]

You should be worried- because if the majority of what you bet is props you likely will get limited. Then you have to find a P2,P3,P4 etc over and over. It's a constant cat and mouse game. You can learn to win with smaller edges but bigger markets/limits by betting main lines or you can keep betting props and small markets and RIP accounts quickly. Typically a smart person will "prime" their account for a year or even two. They won't just show up betting obviously +EV plays and props that any tom, dick and harry can find on oddsjam or PTO or w/e.

Also- I'd just cash the points in. They absolutely could take them and you're out the money then.

 

[BigJay]

I cashed $800 worth of I played in their casino all night once about five years ago

I don’t play in their casino anymore but I guess back then they gave betpoints for casino action

Not sure if there was even a rollover on them but I played a big fave NFL ML and ended up cashing over a grand

I think I lost $500-600 overall in the long casino run so it was actually profitable

I still get bet points for my sports action but it definitely seemed like after I cashed $800 worth they don’t hand them out nearly what they did back then

I usually cash when I can get $10 or $20 and I’ll put them on a race car driver or on a golf major with decent odds on the free roll

 

[martinhop]

I usually cash when I can get $10 or $20 and I’ll put them on a race car driver or on a golf major with decent odds on the free roll

Just to be sure...Cash back is actual cash, not a free play? So you get your stake back (and don't need to look for a +350 dog to play it, maintaining your edge)?


5000 BetPoints for $25 Cash Back

 

[martinhop]

Just decided to post terms and conditions, in case I do something that triggers the sudden removal of BetPoints program on my account:

At BookMaker, we appreciate every time you play with us no matter the size of your bet. To reward your loyalty, you can earn valuable BetPoints™ on your sports betting and casino plays.

Accumulate your BetPoints™ and redeem them for cash and other rewards. The more you play, the more BetPoints™ you can earn!

• For your information...
• You can start earning BetPoints™ on your sports betting and casino play as soon as you open your account.
• Horse betting does not earn BetPoints™ however, horse betting does receive a daily CASH REBATE up to 8% win-or-lose, which is our special loyalty program for BookMaker horse bettors.
• BookMaker reserves the right to decide whether or not a user is eligible to participate in the BetPoints™ loyalty program and other loyalty and rebate programs.
• BookMaker reserves the right to terminate, suspend or modify the loyalty program at any time.
• In order to qualify for a new level, all deposit amounts and numbers of BetPoints™ are based on the USD currency and will be applied using the conversion rate of each local currency.