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flyingillini

flyingillini

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The distinction between hot/cold is kind of irrelevant. There's exchanges and there are wallets. Funds on an exchange are held by a 3rd party -- if they go bankrupt or get hacked or whatever, you could lose your money just like if you had any funds at FTX. They are holding your funds not you.

Funds on a wallet are held and controlled by you. Some wallets are just apps on your computer or phone, some require the use of a kind of physical USB device. All wallets will generate a password seed phrase for you (usually 12 random words). These words are all you need to recover your funds in the event of your PC blowing up, you lose your USB device, etc. That's why you shouldn't have any worry about whether the wallet software/provider you choose will still operate in the future. Guard the seed phrase carefully. That is all you or anyone else needs to access all the funds in your wallet.

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As for hot vs cold, that's just more how you treat your funds. If you're always sending funds to/from books, you probably have your wallet always online on your computer and logged in. In theory you're more likely to get hacked and lose your funds if you use your wallet like this (i.e. hot = always logged in and connected to the internet). You could still create a software wallet, load it with funds, then log out of it and delete the software. Now it's "cold" and all you need is the seed phrase to access the funds in the future, even via a different wallet software.

The reason I think hot vs cold doesn't really matter is ultimately to access a 'cold wallet' you'll have to load it up and connect it to the internet, so if your device does have some kind of malware or something, you're still vulnerable at that point. Or, in the case of Trezor, if you connect it after years of inactivity and then either don't update the software or DO update the software but by going to the wrong site and downloading a trojan instead, then you might be vulnerable.
Thank you, I appreciate this write-up and if I was able to send you some baller coins I would. I am following along here up until the last paragraph. I have no idea what Trezor is. I am concerned about buying it and as you mentioned not updating the software etc. I want to buy some coin, not trade it, not have it on an exchange, buy it and forget about it for years to come. Not sure my best avenue here. Your input is appreciated, let me know if you are available by pm, thanks!
 

rolandcorts

rolandcorts

Joined
Feb 10, 2022
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Any desktop wallet will do. Electrum is an old and good one but Wasabi is probably more user friendly for you so I'd recommend that one.

Once you've received the BTC into Wasabi, just close the app and forget about it. But store the seed phrase and password (Wasabi requires both) somewhere safe; ideally in at least 2 locations in case of a fire or something. Don't just type it into a text file or email it to yourself or anything.
 

Ace7550

Ace7550

Joined
Oct 19, 2021
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Pretty confused by it all, this was all very different when I bought BTC, I just used MTGOX bought and sold with it and made a killing ..haven't done anything in years but I want to buy some and just put it away but not sure exactly where to put it.
Get yourself a Trezor. It's just a little thumb drive that you can store bitcoin on.

OIP.aUR19S1rLMoa1p3dzdI9vQHaHa
 

Wagerallsports

Wagerallsports

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@raiders72001 could you explain to me why a btc purchase of $999 has fees of $18 and a $1,000 is less at $14 using Cashapp ? That makes absolutely no sense to me as a simpleton in this market …
Still much cheaper than places like Coinbase and other sites right?

Once I found Cashapp I haven’t used anything else since, but I’m assuming the rest are still charging more… ??
 

mralar16

mralar16

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Sep 13, 2022
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Still much cheaper than places like Coinbase and other sites right?

Once I found Cashapp I haven’t used anything else since, but I’m assuming the rest are still charging more… ??
It's much cheaper because you don't hold your keys, and when/if Cashapp were to go belly up, you wouldn't have anything left. Keeping your balance in bitcoin proper (aka self-custody) is more secure but isn't for the laziest of us. I tried doing it, ended up spending the bitcoin but I didn't enjoy the experience at all.

Much rather just keep it on an exchange and faceID on my iPhone to log in. Beats the hell out of having to enter a 28-symbol complex password every so often lol
 
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