Betwws

[BigJay]

I read where they claimed to be memebers of the Certified Fair Gaming association, only to be exposed as fake when checked up about it. The CFG forced them to remove the logo from their site.

Shocking not shocking

 

[dinker]

Has anyone that had been stiffed at Dog15Sports been paid recently? Some reports of payouts recently and I wanted to check around on it. I never had a balance to withdraw personally...

It's the same outfit that closed betwws and reopened under Dog15Sports and wagercoast. I had an account there which never paid me anything

 

[BigJay]

It's the same outfit that closed betwws and reopened under Dog15Sports and wagercoast. I had an account there which never paid me anything

Thieves

 

[dinker]

Do a Google search on these guys and see all the complaints

 

[nasios]

Providing you with some updates on dog15sports.
As you may have seen I post my payouts from dog15sports to the monthly payout thread. It's a long time since my last post in those threads 'cause it's a long time that I haven't been paid.
Payouts are processed by wagercoast bookie so those two bookies must be one and same operation.

They allow me to request $2k each week and it used to take 1-2 weeks for the payout to be processed successfully. The last one took approx. 1 month, and the current one it's already at 1.5 month waiting and its status is still pending...

On the positive things, support is always and immidiately available to me - this doesn't happen often with scam bookies. Agent Gary is more than an excellent guy who trully tries to smoothen the process for me.

Concluding 1.5 month is quite worrying yes and I have to warn the community. Nevertheless, I have faith in these people and I wanna believe they will process the next payouts soon.

 

[Tanko]

Providing you with some updates on dog15sports.
As you may have seen I post my payouts from dog15sports to the monthly payout thread. It's a long time since my last post in those threads 'cause it's a long time that I haven't been paid.
Payouts are processed by wagercoast bookie so those two bookies must be one and same operation.

They allow me to request $2k each week and it used to take 1-2 weeks for the payout to be processed successfully. The last one took approx. 1 month, and the current one it's already at 1.5 month waiting and its status is still pending...

On the positive things, support is always and immidiately available to me - this doesn't happen often with scam bookies. Agent Gary is more than an excellent guy who trully tries to smoothen the process for me.

Concluding 1.5 month is quite worrying yes and I have to warn the community. Nevertheless, I have faith in these people and I wanna believe they will process the next payouts soon.

That is a little concerning.
I know we all appreciate this type of communication to keep us informed.
Thx.

 

[nasios]

We are officially at two months of waiting… Very sad!
Again, support is immediately available and Gary is a great agent who shows empathy about this extreme delay.
Two months is overkill for me but I still have faith they will do the right thing.

 

[sickgambler]

We are officially at two months of waiting… Very sad!
Again, support is immediately available and Gary is a great agent who shows empathy about this extreme delay.
Two months is overkill for me but I still have faith they will do the right thing.

You would need bigger power than God to get paid

 

[nasios]

You would need bigger power than God to get paid

They are already half-way of my balance paid.
It'd be weird to scam at this time while they 've been consistent until now - 2 months ago to be more exact..

 

[dg1986]

They stole 20k from me so I wouldn't hold my breath on getting paid

 

[ferrisdamen]

I had 21k in my account and so far only received 1k in payouts. Im told I won't be getting anything else. So they are admitting they are just stealing 20k from me. Further back in this very thread Barry Flemming from Wager Coast stated this:

"We have yet to seize anyone's entire balance without pay. Worst case scenario the individual is sent back all previous deposits regardless of winning or losing."

He also stated id at least get all my previous deposits back when we spoke over the phone. Now they are going back on what they said in this very thread. There is no reason I shouldn't get every dime honestly. This place is a clown show and they change what they say and do on a daily basis.

Sounds like WagerCoast is paying at least some players recently

 

[ferrisdamen]

Sounds like WagerCoast is paying at least some players recently

Sounds like it’s only flyingillinois who I see now also promoted betwws a year ago

 

[BigJay]

Sounds like it’s only flyingillinois who I see now also promoted betwws a year ago

Probably in bed with Willy and Gary

 

[djefferis]

Amazing how fast these guys went from paying large payouts to stiffing everyone.

I publicly vouched for them last year and when I won they paid me quickly and decent amounts.

It was around this time last year I quit playing with them and while I may have deposited once or twice for a little bonus after - never used them much.

Seems they got hit between a run of players pounding slow moving lines/arb plays and some other difficulties. Combine that with slowing deposits and the DDoS attack (which I believe was real - but likely the result of pissing off some players who were participating in the bonus abuse and advantage play scheme).

If it’s too good to be true - it usually is. Soft lines and big limits at a relatively new operation were the perfect storm and unfortunately a lot of people saw their money sucked up in that funnel cloud. I do wonder how many lost that cashed previously vs. those late to the party and just lost.

It’s also a good reminder arbitrage betting offshore isn’t for the faint of heart. Even “sure things” aren’t so sure when you’re betting offshore. Wonder how long until one of these unregulated exchanges goes belly up and you find out the market makers were over zealously seeding the markets and lost their asses.

 

[flyingillini]

I play there daily and have had 5 payouts within the last 3 weeks. I know others who also play with them and have no issues on getting paid. They have great lines, great customer service. I also find some of their lines are better than I get at Pinnacle.

 

[flyingillini]

Sounds like it’s only flyingillinois who I see now also promoted betwws a year ago

I have been paid thousands by them , they are one of the books I use on rotation. Their customer service is top notch and I know many people that also play with them. They get paid with no issues.

 

[nasios]

I have been paid thousands by them , they are one of the books I use on rotation. Their customer service is top notch and I know many people that also play with them. They get paid with no issues.

It's 3 months for me already not getting paid.
They have brought me in inconvenient situations after that long period.
Support is great I agree.

 

[flyingillini]

It's 3 months for me already not getting paid.
They have brought me in inconvenient situations after that long period.
Support is great I agree.

I can only speak for myself and the people that I know personally. I have never had any issues with the book nor anyone else I know "personally"

 

[btcfan]

It’s also a good reminder arbitrage betting offshore isn’t for the faint of heart. Even “sure things” aren’t so sure when you’re betting offshore. Wonder how long until one of these unregulated exchanges goes belly up and you find out the market makers were over zealously seeding the markets and lost their asses.

Arbing, maybe outside of just starting in sports betting and rolling bonuses is a terrible bet. Outside of a select few where both sides are +EV, just giving away part of your edge. Sorry, I know that is not really the topic of this thread, but just pointing this out and a good reason not to arb to begin with (on top of your observation there as well...definitely some "danger" with that offshore these days ignoring the +EV part of things).

 

[tony_piker]

I can only speak for myself and the people that I know personally. I have never had any issues with the book nor anyone else I know "personally"

So when we deposit there and play and then get stiffed you can just say, didn't happen to you and you don't know us personally so this book is still a good one to play at?

You are blatantly ignoring the numerous complaints in this thread that people have been stiffed by BetWWS, Dog15Sports, and that they have now changed name to Wager Coast to run away from their prior bad behavior.