BETNOW STEALS OVER 2K FROM MY ACCOUNT

[Miz]

they may have gotten smashed on derivatives or lives by an odds-jam like crew. so even though they are individuals, they appear as a group to the book. Again, i am not saying this a valid reason for blatant stiffs... don't get me wrong here

 

[BigJay]

Agreed - but per the OP - he was accused of participating in a syndicate.

Betting stale lines is one matter - circumventing limits by synchronizing multiple accounts to bet the same stale line is another.

First I completely agree with the take - pay and close. But syndicates are a different matter entirely.

Given BetNow and their relatively limited live bet offerings and low limits - surprised it even attracted the attention of a syndicate to be honest. Guess some 3rd world players consider $300 “alot” of money to win.

Again - it’s pretty easy / if BetNow can show evidence of a syndicate play being released and OPs bets being made within 60 seconds of it 11 times in a day - that’s beyond coincidence. They have the opportunity to share their evidence and put the matter to rest. I don’t know who is being dishonest here - just have seen the story enough to know not to trust posters blindly.

@ferrisdamen or Jeffrey What books is the guy in the video talking about stiffing him for so much?

Can’t watch a video that long

 

[ferrisdamen]

@ferrisdamen or Jeffrey What books is the guy in the video talking about stiffing him for so much?

Can’t watch a video that long

He is very vague,

Don't blame you a lot of it was not super relevant stuff anyways

 

[ferrisdamen]

yeah who gets to define whether it's a syndicate?... that becomes a lame excuse to stiff people... if all 11 of these bets were max 500 then "maybe" someone could consider them to be circumventing limits, not too many people would do that to bet 10, 100, 150, and other random amounts.

betnow just picked 4 games that had huge live action and said since this player had action on those 4 games (and 7 others) then the player must be a thieving scumbag. which of course defines betnow if the facts are anywhere close to what the poster is claiming

Trust me it was not super fancy plays...and it wasn't odds jam stuff either although I agree with MM that that could be a BS excuse to not play anything that someone else might also play...it was sides and totals and propbuilder props..my account dwindled between $1500 to $0 back to $1500 for MONTHS before I ever won and only after I won and verified my ID in preparation to request a payout did I start getting the sheisty treatment

 

[manurespreader]

Question to my fellow Betnow STIFF victims: do you have any idea how much you were up/down lifetime when they stole from you and kicked you out?

 

[ferrisdamen]

I was up ~$6200 here lifetime, deposited $1499 was refunded that and no mas.

Regarding those who are nervous about how/whether to process a withdrawal:

 

[sickgambler]

I was up ~$6200 here lifetime, deposited $1499 was refunded that and no mas.

Regarding those who are nervous about how/whether to process a withdrawal:

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Well there is always two sides to every story. And then there is the truth

 

[baus]

Well there is always two sides to every story. And then there is the truth

I believe 100% of the posters here who have documented getting stiffed by SBG & Betnow. They’ve turned rogue.

BAUS

 

[BigJay]

I believe 100% of the posters here who have documented getting stiffed by SBG & Betnow. They’ve turned rogue.

BAUS

@baus was BetNow always owned by SBG or just recently?

 

[djefferis]

I believe 100% of the posters here who have documented getting stiffed by SBG & Betnow. They’ve turned rogue.

BAUS

My only question is why now ?

Clearly 20 cent line sets, limited payout options on large balances, big bonus with rollover that encourages scalping and recreational/square bettors only is a winning formula - why ruin it to steal $10,00 or so ?

We aren’t talking a BetIslands sized steal here - hell we aren’t even talking about a BetWWS sized stiff job. They are selectively picking and choosing who they steal from without regard to the balance.

It feels to me like a pure heavy handed effort by “loss control” - similar to those taken by other PPH books with a similar high bonus / low limits focus when they found people they deemed as “syndicate” members. These guys may be a little slow - but they are not so stupid as to kill their golden goose. If your a player who generates a profit - they want to keep you. To me it feels more like “warning shots” at potential players using services seeking out arbitrage plays.

I never understood why some people mess with these to start with - how much are you really winning playing $250 max limits for a 8 cent overlay on a Challenger tennis match anyway ? Even if you do it 10 times a day - eventually someone’s going to catch on and boot you and then where are you at? Betting big on small leagues/sports is a sure way to bring attention to yourself.

I thought they were always SBG controlled - but you would likely know more than I do.

 

[baus]

@baus was BetNow always owned by SBG or just recently?

They’ve always been under the same ownership as long as I can remember. Even going back to when BetRoyal was part of this group.

I believe that years ago SBG was marketed more towards non US and BetNow was marketed towards Americans. That’s the reason for two separate shops. Otherwise their lines and platform etc were all identical.

BAUS

 

[BigJay]

@baus was BetNow always owned by SBG or just recently?

It was you SBG… it was always you

 

[acltear]

Again - it’s pretty easy / if BetNow can show evidence of a syndicate play being released and OPs bets being made within 60 seconds of it 11 times in a day - that’s beyond coincidence. They have the opportunity to share their evidence and put the matter to rest. I don’t know who is being dishonest here - just have seen the story enough to know not to trust posters blindly.

Yah, have to agree with this. If the poster is exploiting an edge, chances are that he isn't the only one. Even if he is not part of a group, it might look like he is part of a group. Unfortunately, Betnow can't reasonable share their evidence; it might seem like they should but they shouldn't. Because any evidence they share gives us more information about how to circumvent the systems they have in place.

I can only say that I have had good experiences with BetNow, though only recently started playing there again, so maybe they won't be as willing to pay out a winning account as they used to be.

I would say that if you are exploiting an information edge, such as past posting live bets, you need to accept that you're going to lose funds and just bake it into your expected expenses as a cost of doing business. Is that fair? Probably not, but neither is past posting a sportsbook's lines that they mainly offer as a courtesy (live betting is not a big moneymaker for them after accounting for all the costs to maintain it). Easy come, easy go.

 

[ferrisdamen]

Yah, have to agree with this. If the poster is exploiting an edge, chances are that he isn't the only one. Even if he is not part of a group, it might look like he is part of a group. Unfortunately, Betnow can't reasonable share their evidence; it might seem like they should but they shouldn't. Because any evidence they share gives us more information about how to circumvent the systems they have in place.

I can only say that I have had good experiences with BetNow, though only recently started playing there again, so maybe they won't be as willing to pay out a winning account as they used to be.

I would say that if you are exploiting an information edge, such as past posting live bets, you need to accept that you're going to lose funds and just bake it into your expected expenses as a cost of doing business. Is that fair? Probably not, but neither is past posting a sportsbook's lines that they mainly offer as a courtesy (live betting is not a big moneymaker for them after accounting for all the costs to maintain it). Easy come, easy go.

@acltear — I need to correct a couple of things here.

I wasn’t past posting. I wasn’t live betting. And I wasn’t tailing some syndicate play drop. My wagers were straight pre-game sides/totals at the numbers BetNow themselves offered on their own platform. They accepted the bets, graded them as winners, and only after I built a balance did they retroactively void months of wagers under vague “line move” and “fraud” accusations, without ever providing a line-item accounting.

That’s not risk management — that’s theft.

You’re free to believe you’ve had a “good experience” so far, but the past week has shown a clear pattern: multiple players with legitimate balances have had them confiscated on shifting rationales. If you continue to play there and happen to win, you should expect the same outcome.

Sportsbooks that can’t pay winners are not sportsbooks. They’re casinos in reverse — guaranteed to take your money, guaranteed not to pay when you win. Players need to stop normalizing this behavior and call it what it is.