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djefferis

djefferis

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so, Americas bookie is now bookie.ag?

Yes

Bookie.ag aka America’s Bookir are straight shooters. But it’s very rec focused. You’ll get paid and kicked out if you hit big. No weird KYC, great customer service, but low betting limits and bad lines.

The best summary of the operation I’ve seen in this thread.

This operation is very large - despite appearances to the contrary. I actually suspect it’s done that way for a reason - no offshore book wants the unwanted attention media coverage and pictures of their operation centers and staff brings from regulatory figures these days. Learn from past mistakes - bigger means more assets to take. Make them think your a 2 man operation in a 3rd world so they lose interest in chasing you.

Would I trust them with 500 - sure. Would I trust them with 5k - no. They have a very specific client they like to attract - that client watches TikToks from influencers, chases whatever some self proclaimed “winning” tout post as their next guaranteed money maker and is generally profitable. If you show you have a clue - you’ll be shown the door. If you show your clueless - and willing to chase losses - you’ll be invited to play elsewhere. For 95% of the 16-25 year old kiddos (or weekend warriors looking to put $100 on their Alma mater or local pro team) looking to bet some football - they are fine. For seasoned pros looking to make money - you should know by now you can’t chase bonuses.
 

offshorelore

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Yes



The best summary of the operation I’ve seen in this thread.

This operation is very large - despite appearances to the contrary. I actually suspect it’s done that way for a reason - no offshore book wants the unwanted attention media coverage and pictures of their operation centers and staff brings from regulatory figures these days. Learn from past mistakes - bigger means more assets to take. Make them think your a 2 man operation in a 3rd world so they lose interest in chasing you.

Would I trust them with 500 - sure. Would I trust them with 5k - no. They have a very specific client they like to attract - that client watches TikToks from influencers, chases whatever some self proclaimed “winning” tout post as their next guaranteed money maker and is generally profitable. If you show you have a clue - you’ll be shown the door. If you show your clueless - and willing to chase losses - you’ll be invited to play elsewhere. For 95% of the 16-25 year old kiddos (or weekend warriors looking to put $100 on their Alma mater or local pro team) looking to bet some football - they are fine. For seasoned pros looking to make money - you should know by now you can’t chase bonuses.
I got paid $5,000 from Americas bookie (Bookie.ag) 2 years ago. Door was closed for me after. Then I asked if I could come back and they gave me a lower limit and decent bonus. Lost a few deposits, ended up cashing out another $2800 7 months ago, was paid in full and just told no more bonuses haha. They are good people though. They want you to lose, but not lose all the time. More than I can say for some of these books
 

offshorelore

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bookie.ag limits are fkn terrible.
I mean, it’s 50 percent of your deposit. Designed to combat “do or die” bonus whoring. Americas bookie is basically Jazz sportbook. If Jazz sportbook didn’t slow pay, payed within 24h, and didn’t spam call you. Same bonus structure, lines, 50 percent wager limits of deposit. And no Philly Akron!
 

JDS

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To be fair, BettorsDen was paying like clockwork in March, April, and May. It was in June when payouts slowed down if I’m remembering correctly.

Hopefully they continue their recovery. They’re a welcome addition to the offshore landscape.

BAUS
If a book has any problems with payouts during their entire landscape of their existence, I’m not playing there EVER again. That’s why I would never give my money to Bovada, just to name one pretty recent example. I do not tolerate any kind of fuckery with my money.
 

baus

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If a book has any problems with payouts during their entire landscape of their existence, I’m not playing there EVER again. That’s why I would never give my money to Bovada, just to name one pretty recent example. I do not tolerate any kind of fuckery with my money.

Fair enough JDS. I feel a similar way, but give some leeway to shops that are trying.

I draw the line at outright theft; a perfect example being the latest SBG Global & BetNow scandal.

BAUS
 

JDS

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Fair enough JDS. I feel a similar way, but give some leeway to shops that are trying.

I draw the line at outright theft; a perfect example being the latest SBG Global & BetNow scandal.

BAUS
I would add Jazz Sports to that as well, I do not want any of their business ever again.
 

Ace7550

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If a book has any problems with payouts during their entire landscape of their existence, I’m not playing there EVER again. That’s why I would never give my money to Bovada, just to name one pretty recent example. I do not tolerate any kind of fuckery with my money.
The one thing you can't do in this industry is stiff players. It's difficult enough to win.
 

Ace7550

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To be fair, BettorsDen was paying like clockwork in March, April, and May. It was in June when payouts slowed down if I’m remembering correctly.

Hopefully they continue their recovery. They’re a welcome addition to the offshore landscape.

BAUS
I got paid in full by Den but it took a couple months. I might be back some day. But certainly not before they start paying people in a timely manner again.
 
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