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All the big sports betting money is gonna go to Kalshi and Robin Hood now

jjgold

jjgold

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Both are going all in sports betting

No limits
No bannings


During the presidential election, there was no limit. Plenty of people were betting 1 million and up


I have no idea how you can compete with that


It’s legal everywhere United States some states try to take them to court and lost
 

djefferis

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RH has 2 major issues in sports right now - 2% commission and lack of liquidity.

It is however an amazing opportunity if you’re willing to play the dog. Place is full of squares - very easy to find value betting contrary to Joe Public who is betting a team while ahead.

Signed up for Kalshi - it’s ok - but much of the same from what I saw.

Big games will be more liquid I’m sure.
 

Tanko

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RH has 2 major issues in sports right now - 2% commission and lack of liquidity.

It is however an amazing opportunity if you’re willing to play the dog. Place is full of squares - very easy to find value betting contrary to Joe Public who is betting a team while ahead.

Signed up for Kalshi - it’s ok - but much of the same from what I saw.

Big games will be more liquid I’m sure.
Djeff, do you do "contracts" on Robinhood? I'm curious if you think its worthwhile.
 

Jrgum3

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Are they legal everywhere in the US?

Dont they have to have licenses in each state? So how are they getting around that?

And I am not buying the 'bet all you can eat' stuff... Cause then sharps will bankrupt them
They're legit because they are federally regulated. It's how they got around Sports betting being illegal in certain states. I recently decided to try it out since it's good in California where sports betting is illegal and they have markets for just about anything.
 

djefferis

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Bookmakers like Blackie will always be around and have an answer to bigger platforms

Offshore bookmakers will ALWAYS have an edge over these guys and a large one. As a private operation - an offshore book doesn’t not have to answer to anyone. No public shareholders, no foreign government regulator and the ability to take a short term loss to maintain their market share.

I’ve said it before and will repeat - these exchanges have a couple of vulnerabilities - mainly they are EXCHANGES- so when too much money comes in on one side the other side of the see-saw goes up (often too high) and creates opportunities for arbitrage players. Then there’s the lack of volume in many non major sports markets and even at times in major sports markets - panic selling creates problems. Finally - to combat these 2 issues - markets will likely have to seed the market with their own money and own market makers - and it doesn’t take long if they misjudge or get greedy with that appetite for risk until they are suddenly negative equity.

Places like Robinhood are riding a high right now - but markets change rapidly. Trying to be everything to everyone rarely works out long term. E-trade tried it a generation ago as the investing hub. These places are acting less and less like banks and more like .com startups circa 1996 every day and it’s a time bomb waiting to blow. As a bettor - you can’t ignore them right now - but just like any book - never keep free cash just sitting there - that’s what hard assets and real bank accounts are for.
 
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