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b3winsto

b3winsto

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my rollover is already ridiculous, need another 8k on stuff i don't even want to bet (full game sides/totals), and now people have to keep betting just to get their own money? YIKES
When I have a big rollover to reach and have a good sized balance I'll just start betting the opposite sides for the same amount. Yeah you'll lose juice but at least you're making a dent in the rollover.
 

ggzola

ggzola

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Totally agree; it's beyond absurd what they are asking. First complete a ginormous rollover that includes bonus winnings, not just the bonus. Then forced to keep betting to get your money. I mean...wow. PPH level (and worse) shit here.
 

Miz

Miz

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When I have a big rollover to reach and have a good sized balance I'll just start betting the opposite sides for the same amount. Yeah you'll lose juice but at least you're making a dent in the rollover.
careful doing this, i had them void my rollover progress back in the day for doing this
 

ggzola

ggzola

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Are you nuts? In the same account/book betting opposites? They aren't paying if you simply complete the rollover and are asking you to bet more; do you honestly think they will let you do that to cash out? They have also told me on chat NOT to bet opposites. I've had some instances where I've changed my opinion on a game and bet opposite (very seldomly) and they still don't like that. Just can't win whatever I do or don't with these fools.
 

b3winsto

b3winsto

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Are you nuts? In the same account/book betting opposites? They aren't paying if you simply complete the rollover and are asking you to bet more; do you honestly think they will let you do that to cash out? They have also told me on chat NOT to bet opposites. I've had some instances where I've changed my opinion on a game and bet opposite (very seldomly) and they still don't like that. Just can't win whatever I do or don't with these fools.
I've done that with youwager a few times. If I was near like 2-3k before a payout I would just throw a 1k down on each side and after the game it was applied to rollover. Some sites just look at the rollover to see if it was complete or not and not do a full breakdown on how it was done.
 
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baus

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I've done that with youwager a few times. If I was near like 2-3k before a payout I would just throw a 1k down on each side and after the game it was applied to rollover. Some sites just look at the rollover to see if it was complete or not and not do a full breakdown on how it was done.

LOL! Amateur hour over here. Good way to get balances confiscated or run into other troubles.

BAUS
 

b3winsto

b3winsto

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LOL! Amateur hour over here. Good way to get balances confiscated or run into other troubles.

BAUS
Dude I've been playing with offshore books for 20 years. I wish I was an amateur but far from the case. Not sure what books you are playing with but not once have I had a problem with doing what I said.
 

Miz

Miz

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it is usually buried in the T&Cs. I found a mistake in soccer vig and was taking advantage of the 3 way wagering back then, but they noticed eventually and voided some of the rollover and asked me to stop. They didn't threaten to take the funds, but these days I wouldn't want to give anyone an excuse to do so
 

mrmcnasty

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When I have a big rollover to reach and have a good sized balance I'll just start betting the opposite sides for the same amount. Yeah you'll lose juice but at least you're making a dent in the rollover.
I know for a fact these specific books will not allow this and will remove those wagers from your rollover

I once had an opposite bets on the same game but one was first half and one was full game. They tried removing these wagers until I told them it technically wasn’t exact opposite bets
 
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