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BigJay

BigJay

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Jazz

ABC Islands

Heritage

WagerWeb

NitroBetting

Betwhale

Everygame



Slow pay no pay.



Leaving them up is harmful to the community. The job is to project the players here. And they should only be up as discretionary walk-aways
A few valid points but what’s your beef with Heritage and WagerWeb??

I’ve been with both awhile and they always pay.

Heritage can be up and down with whether customer service is friendly if you ever need help but they’ve never taken more than one day (same day or next day) to pay me.

Same with WagerWeb. Only real bad report I remember was the @JDS situation and that was resolved fairly quickly the way it should have been. They’ve also always paid me within a day or next day.

Been with both for years.
 
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offshorelore

offshorelore

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A few valid points but what’s your beef with Heritage and WagerWeb??

I’ve been with both awhile and they always pay.

Heritage can be up and down with whether customer service is friendly if you ever need help but they’ve never taken more than one day (same day or next day) to pay me.

Same with WagerWeb. Only real bad report I remember was the @JDS situation and that was resolved fairly quickly the way it should have been. They’ve also always paid me within a day or next day.

Been with both for years.
Because I’ve been told by individuals that formally worked for the company of Wager Webb specifically that the book went down under because Larry Zuko allegedly stole a tremendous amount of company money and left the book defend for itself. And with what’s going on with Wager Webb in Heritage lately, it reflects. They don’t have the money like they did anymore and they are slow paying and not paying
 

offshorelore

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Of all people was just getting slow paid at Wager Webb. Oh well known member in the community even known by sports books. Enough is enough. I’m sick and tired of these books. Bullying everyone there in mind I haven’t been able to play at either of those books for about two years But, with the new tax regulations on wagers in specific states, the industry is going to grow and I don’t want it to grow into the wrong books and give people a bad taste in their mouths. If it was a perfect world people would only bet at book maker And be online
 

btcfan

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"A perfect word only betting at BM and BetOnline"

Not really. Without options out there, the game becomes much harder to beat. Just have to be careful about balances you keep at various shops (yes, it takes some work to manage balances and decide what amount of risk you are willing to take on balances) but picking off soft lines when you have 15 or 20 books to choose from is generally how the game is beat.

Payment and risk wise, 100% agree. If all shops paid within 15-20 minutes and they were effectively like a bank account, absolutely.
 

btcfan

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Jazz/ABC/Nitro - Pretty obvious. (I did hear about a couple payments very recently at Nitro...maybe some NFL crypto inflows there but feels like all 3 are in trouble)

BetWhale/WagerWeb - haven't used either in ages.

Heritage - Honestly haven't heard much either positive or negative lately.

One comment about Everygame, and I would be the last to defend them as I cannot stand them but being fair about it...for a small rec player, probably not that bad. Interface isn't bad, payment limits are not going to generally effect that player, bonuses are usually 100% or similar. But, if you have built your balance up (or are just a larger player, sharp play limited fairly quickly), the slow pay slams down. Nothing has changed, they have always had that pay structure. $2500 after several days of waiting, then 7 before another request. Effectively $5K/month limit. So, cannot go into that shop planning on betting anything above maybe $100. Waste of time. But again, small rec guy that wants $50 on the game, probably not terrible. Now, if he hits that 8 game lottery ticket parlay for $20K, enjoy your 4 month chore of getting paid.
 

JDS

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A few valid points but what’s your beef with Heritage and WagerWeb??

I’ve been with both awhile and they always pay.

Heritage can be up and down with whether customer service is friendly if you ever need help but they’ve never taken more than one day (same day or next day) to pay me.

Same with WagerWeb. Only real bad report I remember was the @JDS situation and that was resolved fairly quickly the way it should have been. They’ve also always paid me within a day or next day.

Been with both for years.
It seemed like it was handled a lot quicker because I was silent about it for nearly 2 weeks and then when they decided they were not gonna pay me, I realized I needed some help, so BMR and all my buddies here at the forum when I created that epic thread, we pushed them against their back and they had to pay me every fuckin’ cent. Or they were going to be downgraded and lose probably a lot more than what they were trying to save by not paying me.
 
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bluejays01

bluejays01

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Heritage is fine, it’s wagerweb I’m worried about

A couple months ago they switched to a pph skin. Seemed like a weird thing to do for a mid size book. Considering they’ve been using heritage’s software and sharing space for the better part of a decade, I assumed they split, and it probably wasn’t a mutual thing

To be fair, wagerweb did send me max payouts daily until my 5 figure balance was paid in full, but I wouldn’t even consider returning until they have a new website. They’ve been saying for months it’s coming but I’m not confident it is

Sad to see so many longstanding trustworthy books take a turn for the worst
 

jamesy2422

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Heritage is fine, it’s wagerweb I’m worried about

A couple months ago they switched to a pph skin. Seemed like a weird thing to do for a mid size book. Considering they’ve been using heritage’s software and sharing space for the better part of a decade, I assumed they split, and it probably wasn’t a mutual thing

To be fair, wagerweb did send me max payouts daily until my 5 figure balance was paid in full, but I wouldn’t even consider returning until they have a new website. They’ve been saying for months it’s coming but I’m not confident it is

Sad to see so many longstanding trustworthy books take a turn for the worst
i feel the same. i do not like the change. not the same as i remember and just a weird feeling with the current look. leaving there and not looking back.
 
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