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209life

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Pohlad family has owned the Twins since 1984

The Minnesota Twins will be changing hands as the Pohlad family, which has owned the organization since 1984, has decided to sell the organization. The news was first reported by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune and confirmed by MLB.com.

Twins chairman Joe Pohlad said in a statement that the family had made the decision earlier this season, but that now was the right time to tell the world.


Businessman Carl Pohlad purchased the team in 1984 from the Griffith family, which had owned the team since its inception as the Washington Senators in 1919 and moved the club to Minneapolis in 1961. Under the Pohlad family's leadership, Minnesota won the World Series in 1987 and 1991 and moved from the Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome to Target Field in 2010.

Carl Pohlad, who died in 2009, twice attempted to sell the club during his time as owner before passing the team on to his children. In 1997 he made efforts to sell the team and have it relocated to North Carolina, but those efforts fell through. In 2001, with a struggling team and one of the worst stadiums in baseball, Pohlad offered to sell the club to MLB for $150 million and have the team contracted.

While Minnesota has not made it back to the World Series since the days of Jack Morris and Kirby Puckett, the club was a staple of the AL playoff picture in the early 2000s, making the postseason six times between 2002 and 2010. But the Twins only advanced beyond the American League Division Series, which was the opening round at the time, just once — falling to the Angels in the 2002 ALCS.

That early 20th-century success came as the team was one of the lower payroll clubs in MLB. As home-grown stars — and eventual AL MVPs like Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau — developed and the club moved into the new stadium, the team increased spending, but the success of the early part of the century wasn't replicated. Minnesota went through some lean years in the 2010s, making the playoffs just once from 2011 to 2018.

Heading into the 2024 season, Forbes pegged the Twins as the 21st-most valuable franchise in Major League Baseball at $1.46 billion.
 

MinnesotaFats

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Minnesota a very hard place to do business.

Just investing in MN is risky w State & local taxes. The worst thing you can do in business is die in Minnesota and this is what happened to the Twins. The Pohlad family had HUGE estate tax obligations, so they borowed against the Twins, like $500m, who now lose money because of the Biden inflation.

Second issue is demographics. MPLS is now all brown and black and a large Somoli population. They don't watch baseball or go to the park. They don't even drink. Minneapolis went from 6 metro area beer distributors in 2000 to just 2 today.

The last issue popped up recently. When Toronto gave Vlad Jr $40mm/ yr that was the end of the small market teams ability to retain talent. Unless MLB adopts a hard cap investing in MLB teams right now might be at the peak valuation....
 

BMR Genie

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Minnesota a very hard place to do business.

Just investing in MN is risky w State & local taxes. The worst thing you can do in business is die in Minnesota and this is what happened to the Twins. The Pohlad family had HUGE estate tax obligations, so they borowed against the Twins, like $500m, who now lose money because of the Biden inflation.

Second issue is demographics. MPLS is now all brown and black and a large Somoli population. They don't watch baseball or go to the park. They don't even drink. Minneapolis went from 6 metro area beer distributors in 2000 to just 2 today.

The last issue popped up recently. When Toronto gave Vlad Jr $40mm/ yr that was the end of the small market teams ability to retain talent. Unless MLB adopts a hard cap investing in MLB teams right now might be at the peak valuation....
Looks like it's not going to be sold anytime soon. But let's say no one buys it.. what will going to happen? Can they still survive?
 

Brock Landers

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Minnesota a very hard place to do business.

Just investing in MN is risky w State & local taxes. The worst thing you can do in business is die in Minnesota and this is what happened to the Twins. The Pohlad family had HUGE estate tax obligations, so they borowed against the Twins, like $500m, who now lose money because of the Biden inflation.

Second issue is demographics. MPLS is now all brown and black and a large Somoli population. They don't watch baseball or go to the park. They don't even drink. Minneapolis went from 6 metro area beer distributors in 2000 to just 2 today.

The last issue popped up recently. When Toronto gave Vlad Jr $40mm/ yr that was the end of the small market teams ability to retain talent. Unless MLB adopts a hard cap investing in MLB teams right now might be at the peak valuation....
Biden inflation, you're head must be up your ass
 

Tanko

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The cost of interest didn't go up 600 basis points between 2021 and 2024?
That was due to the billions of dollars in covid stimulus checks funds handed out by Trump and Biden. Too much money pumped into the economy by both guys lead to the inflation of late 2021 and through 2022 into 2023.

Trump gave out $1800 per adult + $1100 per child.
Biden gave out $1400 per adult + $1400 per child.
 

MinnesotaFats

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Spin it all you want. His 2 signature bills jacked up interest and we are all suffering because of him and his auto pen.

There is no defending the worst administration in US history and one that's subject of the most corrupt and historically un transparent cover up of all time.
 

Tanko

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Spin it all you want. His 2 signature bills jacked up interest and we are all suffering because of him and his auto pen.

There is no defending the worst administration in US history and one that's subject of the most corrupt and historically un transparent cover up of all time.
Back at you...
This sounds just like the SPIN you claim others are talking about. :ROFLMAO:
 

djefferis

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It’s a status symbol owning a team - many will overpay for these “limited” opportunities to own their “hometown” team.

Reality is it will likely be a large group buying in - and hoping to make money back long term under revenue sharing of some sort.

Baseball is still far behind with the have and have nots. MLBPA and MLB need to correct this quickly - either they agree to drop 2-4 teams OR they agree to a cap and revenue split amongst teams.

If they contract - it’s gonna put 100 players out of jobs - if they split the pot it’s going to cut salaries by 10%.
 

MinnesotaFats

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It’s a status symbol owning a team - many will overpay for these “limited” opportunities to own their “hometown” team.

Reality is it will likely be a large group buying in - and hoping to make money back long term under revenue sharing of some sort.

Baseball is still far behind with the have and have nots. MLBPA and MLB need to correct this quickly - either they agree to drop 2-4 teams OR they agree to a cap and revenue split amongst teams.

If they contract - it’s gonna put 100 players out of jobs - if they split the pot it’s going to cut salaries by 10%.
Problem is that they don't spit off cash.

At minimum youd want a 15-20% cash return on a $1.5B investment. Twins lost $35mm last year.
 
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