NHL forces 20 yr OUT for HS bullying

[MinnesotaFats]

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The difference between the NBA/NFL standards versus MLB/ NHL is clear

The kid was a prick bully in HS but to have the NHL strip him just now of an ability to earn a living fir stupid shit he dud as a 14 year old .... WOW

 

[Wagerallsports]

That is absolutely ridiculous 14 years old has nothing to do with now

 

[edawg]

NBA and NFL would lose 50% of their team rosters if held to the same standard. That being said what he did was disgusting and anyone purposely contaminating someones food is borderline mental.

 

[Enikk]

That is fvcked up..

 

[BobbyFK]

Unbelievable. How could they do that for something that had nothing to do with the team and was years ago

 

[Headsterx]

Excellent! That incident with rubbing a pushup in the urinal that caused the kid to take numerous tests is beyond “bullying “. That is one sick disturbed dude.

Yeah, there are many players who need anger management but he’s mentally deranged. Can’t believe Bruins tried to get him back on the team. NHL did the right thing.

 

[Bubbles]

looks like the nhl is blocking him as well. they canceled him for actions he took in 8th grade, totally not fair.

 

[lemartinsports]

Excellent! That incident with rubbing a pushup in the urinal that caused the kid to take numerous tests is beyond “bullying “. That is one sick disturbed dude.

Yeah, there are many players who need anger management but he’s mentally deranged. Can’t believe Bruins tried to get him back on the team. NHL did the right thing.

not even that, he was bullying a kid with "developmental disabilities" and never appeared remorseful.

it is tough judging someone based off of something they did when they were 14, cause i'm for damn sure not the same person i was. that incident must have been a very bad one if they're letting it affect his career

 

[MinnesotaFats]

not even that, he was bullying a kid with "developmental disabilities" and never appeared remorseful.

it is tough judging someone based off of something they did when they were 14, cause i'm for damn sure not the same person i was. that incident must have been a very bad one if they're letting it affect his career

Exactly

In law, all records under 16 are sealed, unavailable for the public to access and names are redacted.

16& 17 year olds are statutory minors and in about 35 States cannot under any circumstances be charged as an adult, other allow the DA to charge murder or assaults as an adult.

We don't allow 14 year olds to drive, smoke, drink, vote, go tanning or get a tattoo because we understand they aren't fully developed and are unaware of the consequences of their actions.

This is a horrible decision and Flys in the face of all modern societal trends. Had he been 18 doing this, then I'm in agreement, but 14....Not the way we do things here.

The equivalent here would be thecWNBA banning a female player for getting an illegal abortion in Oklahoma or something when she was 14.

 

[Tanko]

I think it's bad to hold people accountable for an incident or two commtted while they were kids. But, it does not appear to be just one thing (urinal incident) that got Miller barred from NHL. This had been going on since 2nd grade.


Mitchell Miller conducted a series of vile acts as an adolescent in a racially motivated campaign against a classmate named Isaiah Meyer-Crothers, who had developmental disabilities. Miller, at age 14, pleaded guilty to one count of assault and one count of violating the Ohio Safe Schools Act. He has never appeared particularly remorseful.


Although Miller had to undergo courses/education as a result of the incident to try and teach him to be a "human being", they don't appear to have been effective since he was not remorseful and did not learn his lesson. Clearly, it was ingrained in him as a person. It was how he was raised. I can only imagine what kind of parents he had that caused him to have this approach in life.



I'm betting Mitchell nor his parents realized his racism and bullying throughout his younger years would come back and bite him the a$$ the rest of his life. After 10-15 years of growing up with this approach to others, I can see why it is a permanent part of Miller.

 

[Headsterx]

As Veterans Day is approaching I can tell some of you guys haven’t served. Join the military and they will look at your acts as an adolescent, sealed or unsealed records. The NHL doesn’t allow anyone to join and they may look at your “moral” conduct while as an adolescent.

Comparing NHL to WNBA… lol

WNBA is similar to USHL… and that is exactly where Miller is playing.

 

[vitterd]

Exactly

In law, all records under 16 are sealed, unavailable for the public to access and names are redacted.

16& 17 year olds are statutory minors and in about 35 States cannot under any circumstances be charged as an adult, other allow the DA to charge murder or assaults as an adult.

We don't allow 14 year olds to drive, smoke, drink, vote, go tanning or get a tattoo because we understand they aren't fully developed and are unaware of the consequences of their actions.

This is a horrible decision and Flys in the face of all modern societal trends. Had he been 18 doing this, then I'm in agreement, but 14....Not the way we do things here.

The equivalent here would be thecWNBA banning a female player for getting an illegal abortion in Oklahoma or something when she was 14.

The abortion angle….not your best analogy.

 

[lemartinsports]

The abortion angle….not your best analogy.

yeah not sure how that was relevant tbh

 

[vitterd]

yeah not sure how that was relevant tbh

Sounds like minny got some Oklahoma liberal chick pregnant and she was not interested in 18 years of child support.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

yeah not sure how that was relevant tbh

If a State outlaws abortion (as is a States right), they do so by declaration of viability at some # of weeks (14-25 in most States, others have total bans). In doing so, by declaring that seperate DNA / heartbeat equates to a baby/ human ...and it is later learned that a 14 yr old woman had an abortion and now wants to play in the WNBA, it would be actually WORSE in terms of the State defined crime committed and whatever charges would be brought (murder/ manslaughter, etc).

That's the analogy. The hockey kid was a bully at 14, no doubt, but if this were a WNBA player and she had these records dumped into the media regarding an abortion, what would be the backlash? Because the standard now is that minors records are public property for sports teams and damn the law enforcement angle...

 

[vitterd]

If a State outlaws abortion (as is a States right), they do so by declaration of viability at some # of weeks (14-25 in most States, others have total bans). In doing so, by declaring that seperate DNA / heartbeat equates to a baby/ human ...and it is later learned that a 14 yr old woman had an abortion and now wants to play in the WNBA, it would be actually WORSE in terms of the State defined crime committed and whatever charges would be brought (murder/ manslaughter, etc).

That's the analogy. The hockey kid was a bully at 14, no doubt, but if this were a WNBA player and she had these records dumped into the media regarding an abortion, what would be the backlash? Because the standard now is that minors records are public property for sports teams and damn the law enforcement angle...

Cmon. You know those two are not comparable. Abortion is not a black and white issue, too many variables. Beating and torturing a mentally challenged kid…..pretty clear.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Cmon. You know those two are not comparable. Abortion is not a black and white issue, too many variables. Beating and torturing a mentally challenged kid…..pretty clear.

It's the law now Vitty. Times have changed, and some States are already charging providers & it won't be long until there is applicable law applied to those seeking.

Afterall, if you're gonna charge a John seeking a hooker w solicitation because there's a crusade against "taffiking" then certainly the crusade against abortion will result in much more aggressive prosecution.

It's all new area of law, buy the NHL decision is horrible and will backfire against the woke mob that pushed so hard for it and breached the privacy that we all deserve in law and minor records.

It's bad news for everyone

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[vitterd]

It's the law now Vitty. Times have changed, and some States are already charging providers & it won't be long until there is applicable law applied to those seeking.

Afterall, if you're gonna charge a John seeking a hooker w solicitation because there's a crusade against "taffiking" then certainly the crusade against abortion will result in much more aggressive prosecution.

It's all new area of law, buy the NHL decision is horrible and will backfire against the woke mob that pushed so hard for it and breached the privacy that we all deserve in law and minor records.

It's bad news for everyone

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I’m not upset by this bully. He must have awful parents.

Republicans missed the mark on the abortion thing and it will be the same old thing, the rich will get abortions and the poor will suffer. Republicans will force poor people to have kids and then be against services that support the kids. Some states, like pa, it will always be legal. It’s all cyclical…..republicans will be in charge for 2 years, people will see the horror, then will vote in Dems next time. Same thing happened to Trump in 18

 

[MinnesotaFats]

I’m not upset by this bully. He must have awful parents.

Republicans missed the mark on the abortion thing and it will be the same old thing, the rich will get abortions and the poor will suffer. Republicans will force poor people to have kids and then be against services that support the kids. Some states, like pa, it will always be legal. It’s all cyclical…..republicans will be in charge for 2 years, people will see the horror, then will vote in Dems next time. Same thing happened to Trump in 18

Yeah it'll be legal but probably adopt a 24 week deal like California

Most are 14-24 weeks, which is a very moderate position on the issue.

But, again, if a female WNBA prospect has history like that brought forth, what will be the backlash now that we have this precedence

 

[vitterd]

Yeah it'll be legal but probably adopt a 24 week deal like California

Most are 14-24 weeks, which is a very moderate position on the issue.

But, again, if a female WNBA prospect has history like that brought forth, what will be the backlash now that we have this precedence

There would be no backlash from people because most rational people can distinguish between a decision to terminate a pregnancy and bullying a mentally challenged kid. They won’t look at it terms of law, they will at it in terms of common sense and decency.