Super Bowl 60 🏈 PRE/IN GAME DISCUSSION THREAD 🏈

[justlooking]

Here's a clue...

The vast majority of the money is coming in on Seattle. Yet, Vegas refuses to move the line.

Why?

Because Vegas knows the Patriots are going to win the game.

Therefore, what interest is there in loving the line and make it where everyone starts putting money on the Patriots when they k know the Pats are going to win? Thereby losing all that new money.

Vegas knows. I know.

It's not just you who is saying that.

Same shit is all over the internet.

Do you ever think that it's what the books want people think and they are laughing at the public when they bet more on New England by the kick off instead of just looking at how the teams are and betting the better team?

Let me ask you this, who do you think is the better team? I know you know it's Seattle.

Of course it doesn't mean that the better team will win, but I would rather put my money on the better team.

Here is a quote from a LONG ASS thread on this topic of Vegas not moving the line on Reddit.

"Its not exactly like last year, but there’s parallels

1 team is clearly the better overall team, but the potential QB play disparity could swing the game…

And then Hurts went out and outplayed Mahomes"

I can only hope that Sam Darnold doesn't regress. If he doesn't then Seattle wins rather easily.

 

[justlooking]

Here is a funny quote from that same stupid thread on Reddit.

"Drake Maye (we always say his full name) labrum is hanging by a thread."

What if that's really true though? Then what?

 

[justlooking]

@phillyflyers

I'm just curious. When you picked Washington vs Detroit in last year's playoffs, you were 1000% confident about that pick. My guess is that you picked Washington because you felt that they were the better team and they will win SU and they did.

But now, you are relying on what you think the Vegas books are doing by not moving the lines instead of looking at how the teams are? That's why you are taking New England? Think about that.

 

[pipe]

It's not just you who is saying that.

Same shit is all over the internet.

Do you ever think that it's what the books want people think and they are laughing at the public when they bet more on New England by the kick off instead of just looking at how the teams are and betting the better team?

Let me ask you this, who do you think is the better team? I know you know it's Seattle.

Of course it doesn't mean that the better team will win, but I would rather put my money on the better team.

Here is a quote from a LONG ASS thread on this topic of Vegas not moving the line on Reddit.

"Its not exactly like last year, but there’s parallels

1 team is clearly the better overall team, but the potential QB play disparity could swing the game…

And then Hurts went out and outplayed Mahomes"

I can only hope that Sam Darnold doesn't regress. If he doesn't then Seattle wins rather easily.

All the Las Vegas oddsmakers picked Seattle https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/bettin...k-the-seahawks-patriots-winner-152502459.html

 

[justlooking]

Here's a quote from a site that you posted. I can only hope that that's what happens.

"Public action is flowing on Seattle on the spread. The public isn’t buying the Patriots," Feazel said. "But we’ll have a decent amount of Patriots moneyline action by game day. We’ll see Patriots +190 action on the moneyline and people laying 4.5 with the Seahawks."

"So we’re gonna be rooting for that Super Bowl middle. Our best-case scenario is gonna be a Seahawks win and a Patriots cover."

 

[justlooking]

All the Las Vegas oddsmakers picked Seattle https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/bettin...k-the-seahawks-patriots-winner-152502459.html

I highly doubt that, but I'm sure they are hoping for Seattle to win but no cover since they are taking a lot of New England moneyline bets like you did.

Then, they are going to really clean up.

 

[phillyflyers]

It's not just you who is saying that.

Same shit is all over the internet.

Do you ever think that it's what the books want people think and they are laughing at the public when they bet more on New England by the kick off instead of just looking at how the teams are and betting the better team?

No. That's ridiculous. Vegas doesn't fukk around with it's money. They set the lines. If the public bets one side overwhelmingly they adjust the lines accordingly.

Also, who and what determines who is the better team? What authority controls that?

In 2017, everyone said no chance the Eagles beat New England with a backup QB.

Then what happened? It didn't even matter that Brady threw for over 500 yards that game.

So who and what determines who is the better team before they play each other?

 

[phillyflyers]

@phillyflyers

I'm just curious. When you picked Washington vs Detroit in last year's playoffs, you were 1000% confident about that pick. My guess is that you picked Washington because you felt that they were the better team and they will win SU and they did.

But now, you are relying on what you think the Vegas books are doing by not moving the lines instead of looking at how the teams are? That's why you are taking New England? Think about that.

Yes and no.

Yes me picking New England is partially because of how Vegas is acting.

The other part is Darnold. There hasn't been a time in the playoffs in this guy's life when he hasn't shit the bed at some point.

It hasn't happened yet. But it will on Sunday. The fact that Vegas isn't adjusting the lines only gives me more confidence that I'm right.

 

[pipe]

I highly doubt that, but I'm sure they are hoping for Seattle to win but no cover since they are taking a lot of New England moneyline bets like you did.

Then, they are going to really clean up.

It can't be that easy where all the traders in vegas are picking Seattle to win man. The clean ups gonna be on Seattle

 

[justlooking]

The weakest link in this year's Super Bowl is New England's O line.

Isn't that enough of the deciding factor as to who's better?

 

[phillyflyers]

The weakest link in this year's Super Bowl is New England's O line.

Isn't that enough of the deciding factor as to who's better?

Well, Denver was the best D in the NFL.

They held up well enough to beat them in Denver.

 

[justlooking]

Well, Denver was the best D in the NFL.

They held up well enough to beat them in Denver.

It was more of idiot Sean Payton not taking the points that allowed New England to squeak by.

If Bo Nix played, then New England isn't even in this year's Super Bowl.

 

[phillyflyers]

It was more of idiot Sean Payton not taking the points that allowed New England to squeak by.

If Bo Nix played, then New England isn't even in this year's Super Bowl.

You can speculate all you want.

If Bo Nix played, then New England would have game planned for Nix.

The fact is that NE went into Denver and took a game from them.

 

[justlooking]

In my opinion, people are giving Vrabel too much credit for where New England is. He got fired from Tennessee.

I also think McDonald is better than Vrabel.

There's no doubt that New England has great DE's and I'm sure they are going to wreak havoc in the middle of Seattle's O line and if that leads to Sam playing horribly (like seeing ghosts), then my bet is dead and you are set with your bet.

Also, I don't like the fact that Seattle's offensive coordinator is wasting time interviewing for a head coaching position instead of spending all his time on the Super Bowl.

However, Sam's sack count was reduced to almost half this year in comparison to last year's, so they are doing something right or he is just playing better.

Don't you think New England hasn't faced the offense like Seattle's? Seattle's defense is just as good as the last 3 teams that New England has faced. Seattle's offense on the other hand is way above the last 3 teams that they faced. I guess we will find out soon enough. It's just a matter of me whether to hedge my Seattle ML bet or not.

If Vanjack picks Seattle, then I'm going to sit tight and hope for the best.

One last thing, there shouldn't be a home field advantage in Super Bowl, but Seattle is practically playing in their backyard.

 

[justlooking]

Oh, then there is that jibberish about the Patriots winning their last 9 playoff games wearing white uniform and Seattle losing all their playoff games wearing blue or green or whatever the color is.

Who cares. LOL

If Seattle is allowed to wear white too, then they should.

Or, they should wear their old color that looks like bright blue with white pants.

 

[phillyflyers]

In my opinion, people are giving Vrabel too much credit for where New England is. He got fired from Tennessee.

I also think McDonald is better than Vrabel.

There's no doubt that New England has great DE's and I'm sure they are going to wreak havoc in the middle of Seattle's O line and if that leads to Sam playing horribly (like seeing ghosts), then my bet is dead and you are set with your bet.

Also, I don't like the fact that Seattle's offensive coordinator is wasting time interviewing for a head coaching position instead of spending all his time on the Super Bowl.

However, Sam's sack count was reduced to almost half this year in comparison to last year's, so they are doing something right or he is just playing better.

Don't you think New England hasn't faced the offense like Seattle's? Seattle's defense is just as good as the last 3 teams that New England has faced. Seattle's offense on the other hand is way above the last 3 teams that they faced. I guess we will find out soon enough. It's just a matter of me whether to hedge my Seattle ML bet or not.

If Vanjack picks Seattle, then I'm going to sit tight and hope for the best.

One last thing, there shouldn't be a home field advantage in Super Bowl, but Seattle is practically playing in their backyard.

No I don't.

NE played Cincinnati which had the #3 ranked offense in the NFL.

They played the Bills twice, they ranked #4.

They played Denver, ranked 5th.

They played the Bucs, ranked 7th.

They played the Chargers, ranked 9th.

 

[justlooking]

No I don't.

NE played Cincinnati which had the #3 ranked offense in the NFL.

They played the Bills twice, they ranked #4.

They played Denver, ranked 5th.

They played the Bucs, ranked 7th.

They played the Chargers, ranked 9th.

Against the Bills, 1-1.
Cincinnati didn't have Joe Burrows.
Denver played a QB who hasn't played in 2 years.
Bucs had both of their top 2 receivers out.
Chargers had all sorts of injuries and their offensive coordinator is a bonehead and therefore got fired.

You don't think those matter instead of looking at their whole season offensive ranks?

Context matters what happened in each game, no?

Seattle is fully healthy except for 1 RB and seeing how they shutdown 49ers offense in the last 2 games, who knows what could happen vs New England.

I just don't know what the heck happened vs the Rams that they allowed that many yards and the points. Even if Seattle wasn't gifted the punt return fumble and then a TD afterwards, they also gifted the Rams with the taunting penalty, which then Seattle beat Los Angeles rather convincingly.

New England doesn't have the offense like the Rams.

 

[Wagerallsports]

Feb. 2: Seahawks WR Shaheed the favorite to be fastest in Super Bowl​

ESPN

Among more than 1,500 betting markets, DraftKings is offering odds on the top speed a ball carrier will reach during Super Bowl LX.

Seattle Seahawks receiver/kick returner Rashid Shaheed, at +200, is the betting favorite to reach the highest speed of any ball carrier in Sunday's game against the New England Patriots, a wager that will be determined by the NFL's Next Gen Stats.

Seahawks receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba is next at +270, followed by Seattle running back Kenneth Walker III at +400. New England quarterback Drake Maye has the shortest odds of any Patriot, at +450

DraftKings has the over/under on Shaheed's top speed set at 19.5 mph. He reached a top speed of 21.72 mph this season, while he was with the New Orleans Saints, before his trade to the Seahawks. He has gone over 19.5 on carries in both of Seattle's playoff games this season, but has had only seven possible plays in both playoff games.

The over/under on Maye's top speed is 18.5 mph. He has exceeded that speed in all three playoff games.

Patriots running back TreVeyon Henderson was one of six ball carriers to reach 22 mph during a game this season. Henderson topped out at 22.01 mph during a Week 10 game. He is 10-1 to have the fastest carry in the Super Bowl, but the rookie running back's touches have been limited in the playoffs.

 

[justlooking]

What do you know. As I suspected, Vanjack is on Seattle -4.5. He is at 80% win rate.

8-2 up 14.5 units down 3.5 units for playoffs
Super Bowl side I am on
* Seahawks -4.5 (2 units)

GL all, and enjoy the offseason break.

That does it, I'm sitting tight on my Seattle moneyline bet and possibly bet even more if the moneyline price goes up.

 

[justlooking]

Feb. 2: Seahawks WR Shaheed the favorite to be fastest in Super Bowl​

ESPN

Among more than 1,500 betting markets, DraftKings is offering odds on the top speed a ball carrier will reach during Super Bowl LX.

Seattle Seahawks receiver/kick returner Rashid Shaheed, at +200, is the betting favorite to reach the highest speed of any ball carrier in Sunday's game against the New England Patriots, a wager that will be determined by the NFL's Next Gen Stats.

Seahawks receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba is next at +270, followed by Seattle running back Kenneth Walker III at +400. New England quarterback Drake Maye has the shortest odds of any Patriot, at +450

DraftKings has the over/under on Shaheed's top speed set at 19.5 mph. He reached a top speed of 21.72 mph this season, while he was with the New Orleans Saints, before his trade to the Seahawks. He has gone over 19.5 on carries in both of Seattle's playoff games this season, but has had only seven possible plays in both playoff games.

The over/under on Maye's top speed is 18.5 mph. He has exceeded that speed in all three playoff games.

Patriots running back TreVeyon Henderson was one of six ball carriers to reach 22 mph during a game this season. Henderson topped out at 22.01 mph during a Week 10 game. He is 10-1 to have the fastest carry in the Super Bowl, but the rookie running back's touches have been limited in the playoffs.

@Wagerallsports

If you are betting this Super Bowl, are you taking any sides?

My thought is that you are way more right than wrong and therefore I should not go against whatever you take. Hopefully, you aren't taking the New England moneyline.