Why Do Books Ban Players?

[jjgold]

80% of time not effective

all the pros now pay guys to use their accounts wherever they live and give them the plays with a 50% split of profits and zero risk to the beard

 

[BMR Genie]

80% of time not effective

all the pros now pay guys to use their accounts wherever they live and give them the plays with a 50% split of profits and zero risk to the beard

They banned you because they know exactly that you did this.

 

[jjgold]

I know guys that have 20 accounts FanDuel

the ban did nothing to the originator

 

[Tanko]

I know guys that have 20 accounts FanDuel

the ban did nothing to the originator

Are FanDeul and DK banning people for winning? I'd be surprised if they were. Maybe they would just put an unrealistic limit on their plays.

I don't have FD or DK accounts (Texas sucks).

 

[Ace7550]

Slows them down. Doesn't stop them.

 

[KVB]

So many reasons to limit or ban players.

Not to mention ways around it.

They can always build a better mousetrap, but the mice are smart these days.

 

[djefferis]

You don’t ban sharp players - you use them to your advantage. Limit as needed - then allow them to guide you in maximizing profits.

if one player can hurt you 10k - but allow you to pull in 100k on the opposite side of their action - and provide you guidance in wagering elsewhere - isn’t this an opportunity you would want to be aware of ?

Only reason to ban is dishonest play.

And yes - the mice are getting smarter - but as with most criminal masterminds- there’s a dumb one n the bunch somewhere who brings the big rat down when they get caught. Amazes me how dumb some of these guys are - they act like books don’t work together and guys don’t talk between shops - it’s a very small community and likely as not someone at book A worked with someone at book B if they didn’t work their themselves in the past. Crooks on the other hand have few friends and trust no one in general.

 

[KVB]

You don’t ban sharp players - you use them to your advantage. Limit as needed - then allow them to guide you in maximizing profits.

Agreed. that's why I added limit to equation in my post.

Some limits are basically bans, though.

lol

 

[djefferis]

DraftKings bans no one for winning - when you have a million squares and a sharp - why stop the sharp. Just focus on profiting from the squares and keeping shareholders happy.

FanDuel I did not like at all - but would not surprise me they are aware of people with 20 accounts and turn a blind eye. They are trying to make headway into the kings lead (DK is crushing them). 20 accounts means 20 active players on the books - means you need to do 1/20th the work to make headway.

Kind of like Netflix turning a blind eye to account sharing forever - they wanted to tout their streams - not subs. So who cares if one account makes up 2k of monthly streams because 20 people use it. Until the focus changes to subs and that number slowed - they focused on total impressions made - not in who they were making them on.

 

[jjgold]

Are FanDeul and DK banning people for winning? I'd be surprised if they were. Maybe they would just put an unrealistic limit on their plays.

I don't have FD or DK accounts (Texas sucks).

Yes at record rates
Both of them

 

[KVB]

Has anyone been banned for line manipulation at DK?

Maybe, specifically, in PA?

Asking for a friend.

 

[KVB]

I know guys that have 20 accounts FanDuel

the ban did nothing to the originator

Gold you have no clue.

You have to keep your phones organized.

Can't just have a mess in a pile...

 

[KVB]

I got one word for those who are already deep and trying to expand in a wider fashion...

Arizona

 

[Ace7550]

Gold you have no clue.

You have to keep your phones organized.

Can't just have a mess in a pile...

 

[KingKolzig]

Cause guys like Brock landers chargeback so the book has to try seeing as he has no real life friends

 

[KVB]

Boy the stories I could tell of my travels and operations over the years. A whole new gig with the US opening up.

Almost had California but thank gawd we didn't. The prop written by the big companies, like DK, was horrible for the business overall. They spent a ton of money to fail at the voting booth.

Right now I'm working on Arizona, so if you know anyone...lol.

Law in Zona is 21 years of age to be eligible.

 

[jjgold]

Books have too much technology
You need trusted beards

 

[Ace7550]

Boy the stories I could tell of my travels and operations over the years. A whole new gig with the US opening up.

Almost had California but thank gawd we didn't. The prop written by the big companies, like DK, was horrible for the business overall. They spent a ton of money to fail at the voting booth.

Right now I'm working on Arizona, so if you know anyone...lol.

Law in Zona is 21 years of age to be eligible.

I haven't even gotten around to onshore yet. Offshore is still very very profitable.
I imagine onshore is a similar game. Looks like lines are softer but bonuses aren't quite as plentiful.

 

[KingKolzig]

Books have too much technology
You need trusted beards

Couldn't trust Brock landers as a beard something would certainly go wrong and you would never see your cash ever again

 

[jjgold]

People will always skip with the money That’s the cost of doing business when you have beards.

You just got hope you have majority that don’t steal