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djefferis

djefferis

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All-Star Honda called out on sales ethics

So read the story - and actually I’m with the dealership after reading what mom says here.

In short - her 27 year old daughter for whom she has guardianship - contacted the dealer wanting to buy a car. Someone from the dealership reached out - and daughter said in essence - “I want to buy a car - but don’t have a ride there” - so salesperson arranged to pick her up and bring her in.

What exactly does mom feel dealership should be doing here - make people certify they don’t have developmental disabilities before they attempt to sell them a car ? It’s pretty simple - prospect says “I want to buy but need a ride” - so they helped the prospect overcome a challenge they had to get the sale.

Obviously - when the daughter was there - they realized something was up and contacted the father/did not proceed in selling her anything. But if someone says they want to buy - you sell. It’s not YOUR responsibility or duty to tell people - you can’t afford this/this is not a good idea/you should buy something less costly/more reliable. As long as someone has the APPEARANCE of being mentally capable and the cash/credit approval - it’s on them.

Likewise - it’s not the dealer job to screen people before they’re arriving at a showroom. My old job had me in the middle of a used car showroom next to the back offices. Could not tell you the number of people who rolled in on a city bus to buy a car and filled out an app saying one thing - but produced docs that told a different story. Are you employed 35 hours a week - yes - but then can’t show paystubs within the last 6 months. Income - 4500 monthly - but stubs from their fast food job show 600 last month (of course they say it’s cash tips that make up the balance - yea, not working the register at Wendy’s). Rate your credit - good fair - pull the trades and it’s 421 out of 880.

There’s an old saying “Buyers are liars” - and it’s pretty clear that’s the case her. 27 year old with developmental disabilities did exactly what children will do - lied to get what they wanted - in this case a car. It worked - until they physically met her - and then they shut it down - how is it their fault ? Hate to make the comparison - but how is it any different than a minor claiming to be 19 and meeting up with someone - the person arrives/reasonably can tell the person they met is lying and say “no thanks” - you don’t go around calling that person a sex predator - they were tricked and acted appropriately. Of course can’t blame the person who lied - and dealership has a lot of money so might as well try to shake them down for a new car or something.
 

djefferis

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It’s not just car dealers.

Some businesses are worse than others - any commissioned sales person is going to do what they can to facilitate a sale in general - removing obstacles and assisting within ethical/legal boundaries.

Personal injury attorneys take things to a whole new level in “ethics” - they literally aren’t far off being called ambulance chasers. Not everyone of course - but the bottom 10% make the other 90 look like scum. Even some contractors/body shops use the same “scanner jockeys” - about a decade ago neighbor had a small kitchen fire and had to call 911 - I am pretty sure the “restoration contractor” beat the fire department there and had him signing contracts before it was out. Same BS lines - we work with your insurance company, sure you can wait but if you sign with us - we won’t charge your deductible because we are partnered with your insurance - act now and we can help with a few other projects unrelated to the restoration work. Injury attorneys set up in a strip mall with a doctor next door they partner with…seen it all.

Just thought this one was a blatant display of how consumers try to make business look like the bad guy when it’s clearly not the case.
 

djefferis

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Who’s the ‘guardian’ letting her get into a car with strangers?!?!

poor working mother of 7 - who can’t keep an eye on her 27 year old daughter full time.

Curious - wonder the age range of the other 6 here.

I love how people who cry the loudest use the most sympathetic terms for themselves - single working mother - sounds great until you find out the children are over 18 and the child she has guardianship of works part time and just lives at home.

Again - mentally diminished could be used to describe some posters here at BMR - but we give them access anyway. How long until we have someone crying that we should be restricting access.
 

maltedhopsfrenzy

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poor working mother of 7 - who can’t keep an eye on her 27 year old daughter full time.

Curious - wonder the age range of the other 6 here.

I love how people who cry the loudest use the most sympathetic terms for themselves - single working mother - sounds great until you find out the children are over 18 and the child she has guardianship of works part time and just lives at home.

Again - mentally diminished could be used to describe some posters here at BMR - but we give them access anyway. How long until we have someone crying that we should be restricting access.

Just looked at the article - so, the 27 year old is her ‘third youngest’?!?!

IMO - there’s blame & fails to be had all around. First off, even the most ‘mentally challenged’ know not to get into cars with strangers - ALL of us had this drummed into our heads once we could walk & talk.

Secondly, this ‘poor mother of 7’ (adult children, BTW) - should have one of these deadbeats looking after the handicapped one when she’s not there - maybe the ‘second youngest’…..

Thirdly, once this salesman saw that this girl is OBVIOUSLY mentally handicapped, should’ve called it in and let his office know the situation, NOT bring her to the F#CKING DEALERSHIP!!!!! OBVIOUSLY she’s not going to pass a credit background check…..

I blame everyone involved…..
 
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