Sbr closed?

[papa_jonjon]

It says server error

 

[djefferis]

What is SBR - never heard of it.

(Seriously - guessing more server maintenance- it’s happened a few times the last few months around this time)

 

[papa_jonjon]

Thx

 

[JDS]

They are still around just server issues at the moment.

 

[flyingillini]

They have some great cash contests going. God Bless Andy and he’s trying his best to make it work. Never knock a man for working hard and trying to do the right thing. I am not allowed to post there but wish them well.

 

[djefferis]

No idea who’s behind the scenes at their operation these days - just know their history of shaking down books for $$ and using their arbitrary ratings system to extort cash from operators and using them to boost revenue.

Also not a fan of their mod Opti and the amount of shit talking done about several offshore books and labeling them as scams - without providing the slightest bit of evidence to support these claims.

It’s pretty simple - if you don’t wish to cover offshore or handle disputes - don’t have your employees discussing the topic. Likewise - if you hold a position that a reasonable person would infer that gives you some inside knowledge of a topic and want to express a personal opinion - be prepared to show the slightest bit of evidence to support that position.

I can come on here and say for example JJGold is a losing gambler and it’s an opinion. If a mod says it - that statement comes with an implied level of endorsement from BMR as that is their agent/employees representation made on their platform. Now it’s simple to show - just post the many picks JJ has shared and you can support the statement.

But when you continuously go around calling books a scam (despite posters offering positive feedback) and then accuse the posters supporting those books of being paid shills with zero evidence of either - you lose all credibility in my opinion. The fact they continue to call out Heritage for alleged wrongdoing just shows how credible they are. Granted there have been changes at Heritage - but show me a single no pay complaint leveled against them with any significant evidence. Smaller books are easier to take shots at as they don’t have the reputation Heritage has built or the customer base - but when your talking about one of the top 5 offshore operators today - better have something to back up your claims.

 

[flyingillini]

No idea who’s behind the scenes at their operation these days - just know their history of shaking down books for $$ and using their arbitrary ratings system to extort cash from operators and using them to boost revenue.

Also not a fan of their mod Opti and the amount of shit talking done about several offshore books and labeling them as scams - without providing the slightest bit of evidence to support these claims.

It’s pretty simple - if you don’t wish to cover offshore or handle disputes - don’t have your employees discussing the topic. Likewise - if you hold a position that a reasonable person would infer that gives you some inside knowledge of a topic and want to express a personal opinion - be prepared to show the slightest bit of evidence to support that position.

I can come on here and say for example JJGold is a losing gambler and it’s an opinion. If a mod says it - that statement comes with an implied level of endorsement from BMR as that is their agent/employees representation made on their platform. Now it’s simple to show - just post the many picks JJ has shared and you can support the statement.

But when you continuously go around calling books a scam (despite posters offering positive feedback) and then accuse the posters supporting those books of being paid shills with zero evidence of either - you lose all credibility in my opinion. The fact they continue to call out Heritage for alleged wrongdoing just shows how credible they are. Granted there have been changes at Heritage - but show me a single no pay complaint leveled against them with any significant evidence. Smaller books are easier to take shots at as they don’t have the reputation Heritage has built or the customer base - but when your talking about one of the top 5 offshore operators today - better have something to back up your claims.

And this is once again why you are the best writer on BMR, nobody comes close to you. Thank you for your amazing posts.

 

[djefferis]

And this is once again why you are the best writer on BMR, nobody comes close to you. Thank you for your amazing posts.

Again - just calling out the BS as I see it.

Could be 1000% correct in statements made - but it’s simple: provide evidence, create a ghost name and post it as a personal opinion or don’t say anything.

Way too many people took their ratings as a biblical guide in the early days of offshore and way too many people got led to the proverbial slaughter as a result. I don’t blame the people who worked there for doing what they were told and who to promote - but we are well past those days now.

 

[flyingillini]

Again - just calling out the BS as I see it.

Could be 1000% correct in statements made - but it’s simple: provide evidence, create a ghost name and post it as a personal opinion or don’t say anything.

Way too many people took their ratings as a biblical guide in the early days of offshore and way too many people got led to the proverbial slaughter as a result. I don’t blame the people who worked there for doing what they were told and who to promote - but we are well past those days now.

You see this?

BetIslands Scam - SBR Earns While the Players Lose

One of the more upsetting scams see's the 'reputable' review site SBR earn from players after referring them to a shady BetIslands' operation.

www.sbo.net

While Jon Cheers and WagerChief Shawn are banging hookers and sipping on Exotic drinks at the beach, the players lose.

 

[flyingillini]

Again - just calling out the BS as I see it.

Could be 1000% correct in statements made - but it’s simple: provide evidence, create a ghost name and post it as a personal opinion or don’t say anything.

Way too many people took their ratings as a biblical guide in the early days of offshore and way too many people got led to the proverbial slaughter as a result. I don’t blame the people who worked there for doing what they were told and who to promote - but we are well past those days now.

Click some of those links, look at the relationship with Cheers Jon aka SSLP and the higher ups. Players lose while the good ole boys profited

 

[Wagerallsports]

I’ve never understood what the big deal is with any site having books as affiliates

#1 It’s irrelevant as a player - Your losses are gone either way it doesn’t matter who ends up with all or part of it

#2 I’d rather sign up at a sports book through a site/forum which is hosting them because I know if I have any problems I have a much better chance of getting it resolved than me attempting to do solo

I even resigned up with books (betonline recently) thru forums i frequent and opted to close the old account

 

[BobbyFK]

I’ve never understood what the big deal is with any site having books as affiliates

#1 It’s irrelevant as a player - Your losses are gone either way it doesn’t matter who ends up with all or part of it

#2 I’d rather sign up at a sports book through a site/forum which is hosting them because I know if I have any problems I have a much better chance of getting it resolved than me attempting to do solo

I even resigned up with books (betonline recently) thru forums i frequent and opted to close the old account

I feel the same way with commission payments. Me being a part-time travel agent I rather someone book their vacation through me. It doesn't cost you anything extra, you still get all the same benefits and sometimes I will even throw in extras to entice you to book with me. It's a win-win for everyone involved

 

[JDS]

I feel the same way with commission payments. Me being a part-time travel agent I rather someone book their vacation through me. It doesn't cost you anything extra, you still get all the same benefits and sometimes I will even throw in extras to entice you to book with me. It's a win-win for everyone involved

How much did you make as a travel agent this year Bobby it sounds very lucrative ?

 

[djefferis]

I’ve never understood what the big deal is with any site having books as affiliates

#1 It’s irrelevant as a player - Your losses are gone either way it doesn’t matter who ends up with all or part of it

#2 I’d rather sign up at a sports book through a site/forum which is hosting them because I know if I have any problems I have a much better chance of getting it resolved than me attempting to do solo

I even resigned up with books (betonline recently) thru forums i frequent and opted to close the old account

I have no issue IF the person selling the product discloses they are paid a fee/commision.

The difference is when the site is proclaiming themselves as an “unbiased” rating agency - while making very biased recommendations.

One is a salesperson selling me on something - there is an expected amount of “puffing” at play there. Buy XYZ - I trust the so much I use it myself and such.

There’s a big difference though in going to a rating agency and having them say “buy XYZ stock - it’s going to soar and you’ll be rich. I fact we are buying all we can ourselves” meanwhile XYZ pays the brokerage a handsome commission from all the money they raise selling shares before skipping town with investor cash.

You can be a salesperson or a consumer rating/protection agency - but never both.

 

[Wagerallsports]

I feel the same way with commission payments. Me being a part-time travel agent I rather someone book their vacation through me. It doesn't cost you anything extra, you still get all the same benefits and sometimes I will even throw in extras to entice you to book with me. It's a win-win for everyone involved

Excellent comparison

You aren’t paying any extra, you aren’t losing any extra, and you have someone to assist you

 

[djefferis]

And again - no issue with sites offering the service.

Forums got to keep the lights on somehow. It’s either paid membership or affiliate links.

But don’t proclaim yourself “protector” of the public - while taking bribes from the crooks.

 

[Wagerallsports]

I have no issue IF the person selling the product discloses they are paid a fee/commision.

The difference is when the site is proclaiming themselves as an “unbiased” rating agency - while making very biased recommendations.

One is a salesperson selling me on something - there is an expected amount of “puffing” at play there. Buy XYZ - I trust the so much I use it myself and such.

There’s a big difference though in going to a rating agency and having them say “buy XYZ stock - it’s going to soar and you’ll be rich. I fact we are buying all we can ourselves” meanwhile XYZ pays the brokerage a handsome commission from all the money they raise selling shares before skipping town with investor cash.

You can be a salesperson or a consumer rating/protection agency - but never both.

Yes sir I understand that point

There are hundreds if not thousands of websites promoting sports books we all know are garbage and in many cares never even heard of

But I’d say most of the popular & well respected forums have always stuck with the cream of the crop

 

[BobbyFK]

How much did you make as a travel agent this year Bobby it sounds very lucrative ?

$195.12 JD. It can be very lucrative but it is hard to obtain clients. With a small social media presence I mostly booked for friends and family along with myself. If I put more of an effort into it I could probably make more but honestly I'm happy with just booking a few vacations here and there along with my own personal travel

 

[JDS]

$195.12 JD. It can be very lucrative but it is hard to obtain clients. With a small social media presence I mostly booked for friends and family along with myself. If I put more of an effort into it I could probably make more but honestly I'm happy with just booking a few vacations here and there along with my own personal travel

Wow, a very specific answer all the way to the cents amount I like that.

 

[dougtushyterror]

And this is once again why you are the best writer on BMR, nobody comes close to you. Thank you for your amazing posts.