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BigJay

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Looks like someone was maybe using his account to bet baseball

Shared account defense. Sounds fishy to me

 

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So he was busted because the sportsbook he signed up with detected the same electronic device being used with the "Friends" account in prior bets. What a mistake. He signed up with the same book as his Friend did.... If he'd used a different book, he likely would have never been busted.

This article left out a lot of details I read elsewhere. There were 8 games bet by the "Friend" that Hoberg actually worked either behind the plate, at a base, or in replay. They lost money on those bets.

If you look at Hoberg's record behind the plate, he is one of the most accurate umpires in the league. He had a perfect called game once.

I would like to see him return in 2026. Good umpires are hard to find and I don't think he did anything wrong here. Just used bad judgement.
 

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I read that. How do you get linked to sharing an account? It doesn't make any sense.

That being said, what would be the position of MLB or the Umpires Union if an Ump started a gambling podcast, and just used tape & analytics to discuss betting?
While logging on to his friends account to place bets at Sportsbook A he used his phone. The book noted the electronic device signature.

Later, he opened his own account at the same sportsbook as his Friend and used the same phone and the book noticed the electronic device was used on two different accounts (the Friend's account and Hoberg's new account). RED FLAG.
 
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This article left out a lot of details I read elsewhere. There were 8 games bet by the "Friend" that Hoberg actually worked either behind the plate, at a base, or in replay. They lost money on those bets.

Don’t you think the fact the friend was trying to make money on Hoberg games is enough for firing the ump?
 

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Don’t you think the fact the friend was trying to make money on Hoberg games is enough for firing the ump?
Probably but, he claimed he (Hoberg) didn't know about those bets (yeah sure).
The fact they lost on them probably helped his case.

They went through all 8 games Hoberg was involved. 2 Hoberg had no calls to make (i.e. was on a base or in replay booth and didn't ever get involved). In 6 others, there either wasn't any dispute close enough to matter in the game or the calls Hoberg made were reviewed by replay and backed up his call AND they still lost $ on those games.....

So, if Hoberg was in on those 8 bets, he didn't do a good job of making them winners.

Also, I like the fact that the guy is damn near perfect at the plate. Now that he's marked as a bettor, he'll never be able to get away with it in the future so bringing him back gives us the best of both worlds.... Someone who is not going to cheat since he'll be watched like a hawk and a guy who does his job exceptionally well at the plate.
 

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Yeah, right...

After being contacted by MLB investigators, the friend deleted both of his Telegram threads with Hoberg. Hoberg also deleted his Telegram account. Hoberg asserted throughout the investigation and appeals process that he had no idea at the time that he was being investigated for betting on baseball because he had no knowledge of his friend's baseball bets. Hoberg said he deleted the messages simply because he was embarrassed by the frequency and volume of his legal non-baseball betting activity. Hoberg's actions regarding the deletion of messages made those messages irretrievable, as later efforts by MLB and Hoberg to recover those messages failed.

This is all kinds of wrong and I'm surprised he can come back as soon as 2026.

The whole scheme stinks to high heaven.
 

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Hoberg said he deleted the messages simply because he was embarrassed by the frequency and volume of his legal non-baseball betting activity.

I say again, yeah, right.

If you want to be an umpire or ref in any professional or college sport, you shouldn't be able to bet on anything at all. You should give up that right.

That would solve all of this.
 

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I say again, yeah, right.

If you want to be an umpire or ref in any professional or college sport, you shouldn't be able to bet on anything at all. You should give up that right.

That would solve all of this.
But don't you think if you had a guy who has been busted gambling he would know he had to be super-clean thereafter? I mean the eyes on him if he came back would be everywhere. It would be damn near impossible to gamble on a game he called without getting busted (I like that idea).

If there was ever a question on one of his calls during a game, he would have to agree to let them dig into his phone/computers/etc... to confirm he wasn't working with someone to fix the game. It would be like having a prostate exam waiting for you after every game if you messed up. :ROFLMAO:
 

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But don't you think if you had a guy who has been busted gambling he would know he had to be super-clean thereafter? I mean the eyes on him if he came back would be everywhere. It would be damn near impossible to gamble on a game he called without getting busted (I like that idea).

If there was ever a question on one of his calls during a game, he would have to agree to let them dig into his phone/computers/etc... to confirm he wasn't working with someone to fix the game. It would be like having a prostate exam waiting for you after every game if you messed up. :ROFLMAO:

No.

I think an umpire or ref should never be anywhere near gambling, on any sports.

In fact, they probably shouldn't even be able to play table games or slots, or maybe they can with limits. I can expand on that if anyone wants me too.

No need to dig into anything, no need to tell ourselves things weren't shady just because the league couldn't identify anything.

Not only does my experience and knowledge not feel the league is credible in their conclusions as they have the biggest motive to lie about his influence...the integrity of their game.

The Sports Wagering Integrity Monitioring Association could weigh in, but they shouldn't have to.

Only thing you need to know is that this umpire is affiliated with a professional gambler and shared an account to circumvent rules.

That's bad, real bad, no matter how you look at it.
 

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No.

I think an umpire or ref should never be anywhere near gambling, on any sports.

In fact, they probably shouldn't even be able to play table games or slots, or maybe they can with limits. I can expand on that if anyone wants me too.

No need to dig into anything, no need to tell ourselves things weren't shady just because the league couldn't identify anything.

Not only does my experience and knowledge not feel the league is credible in their conclusions as they have the biggest motive to lie about his influence...the integrity of their game.

The Sports Wagering Integrity Monitioring Association could weigh in, but they shouldn't have to.

Only thing you need to know is that this umpire is affiliated with a professional gambler and shared an account to circumvent rules.

That's bad, real bad, no matter how you look at it.
Fair enough.
 
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