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nasios

nasios

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I've observed something intriguing over the past year and continue to see it this season. Sharp bookies like pinnacle and bookmaker.eu often show significant disparities in highly liquid markets such as NCAA and NFL. What's interesting is that these differences do not last for a fraction of a second - it is not a steam - but can persist for hours throughout the day.

This kind of divergence doesn’t seem to happen in other high-liquidity leagues, such as Premier League or Bundesliga, where odds are typically very aligned across bookies at any given time.

I'm curious - why does this divergence occur specifically in NCAA, NFL or other american leagues?
Which bookie has the edge on these leagues you think?

I used to consider pinnacle as the market maker for all sports and markets. Recently though, I’ve started to question this. While they may still lead on the closing line - 1-2 hours prior to the kickoff - bookmaker.eu might actually have an edge in setting more accurate lines for early/opening markets.

Thoughts?
 

Miz

Miz

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doesn't take big bets to move lines early on cbb (esp totals). they independently manage them. lean pinnacle for sharpness. sometimes automovers get the line where it is and they take a position to get action back on the other side if they're exposed
 

nasios

nasios

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lean pinnacle for sharpness
That's what I thought too but I 've been really observing their lines jumping around.
Pinnacle odd (decimal) moving upwards from 1.80 to 2.00 and even worse. And this occurs repeatedly.

Additionally, my results in bookmaker.eu are break-even over a loong time. More precisely it's a rollercoaster experience so far. Huge upswings followed by huge downswings. Tough to deal with those swings, it hits my psyche strength.

Thank you, try to improve my game always.
 

Miz

Miz

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yep, i understand the swings. can be tough sometimes. keep in mind there is a lot of market manipulation in cbb. max bet pinny, go bet the other side at a copycat book x10. esp early in the day. you could probably fade oddsjam induced moves and make money on the buyback
 

nasios

nasios

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keep in mind there is a lot of market manipulation in cbb. max bet pinny, go bet the other side at a copycat book x10
That sounds very smart and reasonable. The 1st max bet pinny is dumb money following by the sharp action x10 in the copycat book. But the copycat book shouldn't run out of money sooner or later?
We agree then you can't blindly follow pinny lines?
I don't have any insight whether the lines moved by sharp action or not. The only thing allowed to see in a ps3838 account is the max bet.
 
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