Is Jazz and Bet Us ok still ?

[rockytoptn]

Or rather not try them ?

 

[djefferis]

BetUS - I do not personally use (yet) - but all reports are they are solid. New management has turned the place around and will pay - they may give a bit of a run around with verification before they pay - but they pay.

Jazz - again, not active there. More of a mixed bag of reports. They pay - but again can be a tad trying at times with their verifications. Complaints of players being limited and winning in casino and then being told it was a system issue. Take those for what they are worth - clearly if someone walks into a casino - plays $50 a hand BJ and claims to walk away 3 days later with 50k - something is wrong. I’d feel safe playing there and the bonus was right - but unless you’re getting something there an A book can’t give you - I’d stick to safer options. To me they are a solid B level book - well established brand and won’t be going anywhere anytime soon and remains responsive to legit issues.

Again - common sense with any book - no need to treat them like a bank - keep what you need to in them and if the deal is too good to be true - it likely is. Both are well established brands and aren’t going to stiff a couple of players over 500 dollar deposits. End of day they pay - but can be sensitive to winning new players - especially those who show signs of being too sharp.

 

[keithrichard]

I play occasionally at Jazz. If you decide to join there I highly recommend taking their reduced juice option.
Forget the bonuses here. There are other good shops for nice bonuses instead. I like a balance of both.

 

[ks1986]

Both solid IMO

 

[BigJay]

There were some complaints of slow pays at Jazz earlier in the football season as well as the casino problems mentioned above. I’d play elsewhere if there was a similar option

 

[rockytoptn]

Good juice there but not sure worth it …

 

[rockytoptn]

Would like to take advantage of low juice option but need paid .. Anyone not been paid? not sure about the casino guy him not getting paid red flag for me ..

 

[djefferis]

The casino story just comes off as weak to me - first - who in the hell is dumb enough to play serious money in ANY online casino long term? We are not talking winning 50 and trying to double it type of play.

Read the whole complaint - player admits to not actually keeping track of what they won/lost in any way - just relied on books software. Book software made a mistake displaying the total - logs show the actual result of hands played - so when the book reconciled it and showed player was a loser actually - and waived the balance - player pushed back trying to blackmail they way into a payout.

Look - I’m no genius - but I am smart enough to know to track my play online in a casino if indeed I am on a winning run of epic proportions. Likewise - I know when I start with 500 and lose more than I won - there is no way I’m POSITIVE money betting 50-100 a hand while playing 2-3 hands. Player saw a glitch in software allowing him to play more than he had available- ran with it hoping for a positive result which never came - then foolishly thought a book wouldn’t check a 30k payout from casino and tried to shake them down and failed.

The slow pay complaints were at BEGINNING of the NFL season - which if you recall was when books were killing it. NFL then went to a very square friendly result with faves hitting well beyond the norm (what was it week 13-14 where no underdogs covered ? ) - books can legitimately have processor issues causing slow pays - it’s not always a case of being broke.

Again - I’d take Heritage over Jazz myself - don’t they price at -108 still ? Does BetOnline still do dimeline on bases ? Reduced juice is just harder to find in these post 5Dimes days aside from Pinnacle. I wouldn’t sweat them too much - but also dont like them enough to keep a large balance there with other options.

 

[rockytoptn]

Thanks for reply .,Yeah I get better than 108 at jazz ,thats why was going to use them and different numbers ..

 

[fishhead]

Several pays both last 12 months

 

[rockytoptn]

Spoke to Jazz in live chat tonight . will have to check once more time tomorrow talk to Phil ,but guy said can only do 1 payout bitcoin for 1000 a week .. and will take full 48 hours to withdrawal .. Will see how it goes

 

[BigJay]

Spoke to Jazz in live chat tonight . will have to check once more time tomorrow talk to Phil ,but guy said can only do 1 payout bitcoin for 1000 a week .. and will take full 48 hours to withdrawal .. Will see how it goes

That’s not acceptable this day and age in my opinion.

if you ever built up a decent amount there it would take forever to get out. It reeks of the games books play to get you to lose your money back.

 

[djefferis]

1k a week is a joke.

Plenty of shops limit to 1x a week - but 2-5k, and these are smaller bonus shops.

Unless it’s a 1x thing that will be resolved within a week - I’d look elsewhere. Even reduced juice is worthless if a shop can’t pay you.

I’ve said it before - if not for a bonus - there are 3 shops I’d play with - Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline.

 

[fishhead]

Spoke to Jazz in live chat tonight . will have to check once more time tomorrow talk to Phil ,but guy said can only do 1 payout bitcoin for 1000 a week .. and will take full 48 hours to withdrawal .. Will see how it goes

My friends get 5k a week...........but takes 6+ days

 

[rockytoptn]

Guy this morning is saying can do 2500 a week crypto so who knows

 

[rockytoptn]

So spoke to Phil and he said can do 2500-5000 a week according to availability .. He has been there for years ..

 

[BigJay]

Sounds like they’re confused. Wouldn’t make me too confident

 

[fishhead]

Sounds like they’re confused. Wouldn’t make me too confident

Lots of chat reps are many places......even BOL

 

[rockytoptn]

Got paid same day ..

 

[herky]

I got paid 2500 which is thebtc max last week with no kyc request - submitted on a Wednesday and paid the following Wednesday