Hard Rock being Shady

[Ace7550]

He hit three monster bets — and then the sportsbook wouldn’t pay

There’s a common marketing slogan in sports betting: “Sweat the game, not the payout.” In other words, when dealing with legitimate sportsbooks and not some shady neighborhood bookie, gamblers shouldn’t have to worry about getting stiffed. Yet bettors say gaming operators aren’t always living up...

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[Wagerallsports]

Everyone thinks Offshore can be shady at times

But in all reality legal books and casinos in the states/everywhere have a history of being just as bad if not worse with that 'error Bullsh!t

 

[djefferis]

It’s a highly correlated parlay.

Multiple bets that a player won’t score and the under.

Book should have not taken the action and software should have been set to reject it. Unless they can show player colluded with someone to get bet accepted - they

 

[KingKolzig]

Everyone thinks Offshore can be shady at times

But in all reality legal books and casinos in the states/everywhere have a history of being just as bad if not worse with that 'error Bullsh!t

World is selfish dog eat dog. Wal-Mart sells $4 drinking glasses and they crack easily. Total fraud dangerous product. No doubt ppl with glass ripping them apart so CEO can have a yacht. And I'm not wrong 3 have broken with little use

 

[djefferis]

The error was accepting the bet or lacking proper measures that prevent correlated parlay.

Books want to push SGPs - but want to avoid paying when beaten at their own game.

 

[KVB]

The burden of proof for pricing errors needs to be on the sportsbook and they should be punished by regulators if the make them and void bets because of them.

They're already getting away with murder by shorting the odds on correlated parlays like they do.

 

[Ace7550]

The punishment should be having to pay the bet. Pay the man, and then fix your odds.

 

[Tanko]

The error was accepting the bet or lacking proper measures that prevent correlated parlay.

Books want to push SGPs - but want to avoid paying when beaten at their own game.

THIS!
Punish the book not the bettor.

 

[jjgold]

Hard rock terrible

all the squares play there

 

[djefferis]

Again - it’s not an “error” in the line - it’s an error allowing the lines to be combined into a parlay - no different than betting a teams total to be 0 and then combining that with the no on will (individual player from said team) score. If the total hits - so will all the remaining wagers - you’re simply boosting the payout.

The player exploited a flaw in the software - no different than finding an ATM that gives you hundreds when it should be passing out twenties. Human error caused an excessive payout and someone took advantage. It’s unethical - but not illegal.

Amazing how a tribe is complaining about someone ripping them off in a deal. Thought we settled this long ago - we agreed to allow them to do what they wish on tribal land and they overlooked the whole rape/murder/introducing new and deadly diseases and theft of land thing.

 

[KingKolzig]

Hard rock in Tampa has cheesy commercials almost guaranteeing you win if you visit the casino. "First time I went I won $65k...*

 

[edawg]

Indian givers

 

[Ace7550]

It was far from guaranteed. There are different levels of correlation. I would say this was a more loosely correlated bet. Maybe a 4 on the 1-10 scale.
Either way, pay the man and fix your shit. Nothing will make a book go out of business faster than not paying players.

 

[JDS]

Indian givers

These God damn fuckin’ Indian givers LMFAO I love that. Should’ve been the title of the article, but no one has any balls anymore in the media scared of being canceled.

 

[KVB]

The punishment should be having to pay the bet. Pay the man, and then fix your odds.

That's a big "yeah but" though because while I think that if they make the bet they should honor the bet there are some errors, not in paraly pricing, that are obvious and shot takers probably shouldn't be rewarded.

It might be simpler that way, all black and white, but it's just not real world enough. Regulators need to make it so that it doesn't happen. Make it so that if it is a small pricing error, the bet will get paid.

Sportsbooks need to be made to think twice about crying "pricing error" to avoid payouts, not just have to payout if it doesn't roll their way. Even the thought of freerolling on the backdrop of price errors should be shunned.

 

[KVB]

I used to be old school and say that no matter what if you book the bet you pay it.

But offshore booking showed that it's not always black and white, especially in the wild west days of offshore.

There will always be errors here, this will never be perfect and I can argue that some have built a business on small "pricing errors" by the books, lol, so there will always be errors but the subjective review to find them on payout should be discouraged.

No free rolling over nitpicking. Learn and as Ace said, fix your odds.

Regulators can deal with this and keep it fair for the player.

The books know this.

 

[djefferis]

Regulators are in place to ensure fair play on both sides.

Punishment is not making them pay - that’s simply making them do what’s right. Punishment is a civil penalty - restrictions or worst case - stopping operations.

Think of it like this - I loan you $100 - you agree to repay on Friday and don’t. I sue - judge saying you have to pay me makes me whole when you pay - but you suffered no consequence or punishment - you simply were ordered to fulfill your commitment.

Same deal here - you took the bet, paying the winner is not punishment - it’s fulfilling the obligation. Knowing the regulators - the punishment will be a $50k donation to be paid to the regulatory fund. Gonna be one hell of a regulators get away weekend this year - compliments of the Seminole tribe and Hard Rock.

 

[KingKolzig]

Do they ever settle these?
Say for like 25k here

 

[2the9s]

The punishment should be having to pay the bet. Pay the man, and then fix your odds.

Yes.

Crap like this makes me appreciate the Nevada Gaming Commission. They would never allow a book to pull something like this.

 

[Ace7550]

That's a big "yeah but" though because while I think that if they make the bet they should honor the bet there are some errors, not in paraly pricing, that are obvious and shot takers probably shouldn't be rewarded.

100% agree. If a sportsbook accidently posts Ravens at +9.5 for this weekend they should be able to cancel the bets of the shot takers that hammer it.
Funny, I have a local bookie that I bet football with. He accidently sent out the Eagles at +3 this last weekend. I immediately told him to fix it and he did within about 5 minutes. But not before one of our asshole friends tried to place a big bet on it.